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    P.O.F. production

    It appears the Maltby plant went to Pakistan in the early 1950's. One report of a 1952 No. 4 Mk 1 POFicon exists, and a 1956 Mk 1 is known to exist.
    Any confirmation of when the Maltby plant was shipped out? Any other rifle data the community might have?
    The Fazarkerly plant is supposed to have departed in the mid 1950's.
    I have a 1957 No. 4 Mk II, and have seen a 1960. Any other data on these as well?
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    I own a 1961 POFicon Mk2 and have a Longbranch from the subcontinent with a 1963 dated POF cocking piece.
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    POF #4 Mk2

    I have a POFicon No4 Mk2 dated 1958..arrived by post yesterday, a birthday present from my wife.

    It's a bit "cosmoliny" right now but there are some stamps (on wood) on it I will photograph & post for anyone's guess's when it's cleaned up a bit.

    The actual receiver stamps (more like engraving really) look just like my No5 Mk1 (stlyewise) which was made at Faz. in 1946.

    Peter (Burlington, Ontario)

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    I have a pair of POFicon No.4 Mark 2's. One is dated 1958, the other is dated 1961.

    In Edwards' India's Enfields, it is stated that initial production of the No.4 Mark 1 started in 1953 and that by 1957 it had switched to No.4 Mark 2's. It is further stated that it continued making new No.4's up to 1965 or 1966 with a 1965 rifle being the latest dated rifle so far.

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    Hello Limpetmine,
    I'm posting a copy here of what I posted at GB... hope it helps.

    Ok... As requested/promised. My older camera ended up doing the best possible job of it and it's still crap.... very faintly marked with a shiny finish causing me all kinds of issues. I had to mess with the light angles until it showed. This example, as Edwards states, has a mixture of british manufactured parts. (He also states 53' was the first year of manufacture so who knows where this one came from)... SM marked oval cocking piece and a Poole marked front sight protector. Savage front band, trigger guard, follower and a Faz marked magazine body. If more shots are needed.... just ask.
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    Should read Edwards.... not Skennertonicon... No edit function here ? Sorry

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    SpikeDD, the edit function only is available for a short time period after posting. I've made the change to your original replacing Skennertonicon with Edwards.

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    Edit function

    I'm a guest here, and will abide by the rules, but let me get this off my chest. I understand that the edit function is limited to 30 minutes or so, then a post is locked. From what I've inferred, this was due to some mud slinging and editing posts to "unsay" what was said. If that is a problem, ban the "problem person".
    Not being able to edit my post, say, 30, 90 or 120 days later is an issue with me. I will post pictures and other data that I don't prefer to leave up forever. I understand it could be archived somewhere, but most folks don't bother with that. The limit on editing my posts limits my contributions here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limpetmine View Post
    I'm a guest here, and will abide by the rules, but let me get this off my chest. I understand that the edit function is limited to 30 minutes or so, then a post is locked. From what I've inferred, this was due to some mud slinging and editing posts to "unsay" what was said. If that is a problem, ban the "problem person".

    Not being able to edit my post, say, 30, 90 or 120 days later is an issue with me. I will post pictures and other data that I don't prefer to leave up forever. I understand it could be archived somewhere, but most folks don't bother with that. The limit on editing my posts limits my contributions here.
    Hi limpetmine ....

    Your contributions and opinions are valued and I for one, always look forward to what you have to post on the boards.

    Let's define what we're talking about, so everyone benefits from this discussion. Here's the two variables as defined by the system software that operates this site.


    Time Limit on Editing of Thread Title.

    This setting is the number of minutes in which a user may edit the title of a thread that he starts, and have it apply to the thread listing screen (forumdisplay). After this time period, the change will only apply to the title shown in the first post of the thread. (Administrators and moderators with permission may always edit the title of the thread as shown on forumdisplay through the Edit Thread function.)

    Time Limit on Editing of Posts

    This is the time in minutes after the post was posted. If a user posted a post at 1:00 PM and this setting is set to 5, then that user will not be able to edit that post after 1:05 PM.
    Actually, the current timeframe is set by default to 60 minutes, not 30 as you mention, but you bring up an excellent point.

    For almost 2 1/2 years, the time limit for a user to be able to alter his own post had NO time limit. We never had a problem that I can remember. Perhaps it was the nature of our membership and type of board we operate, but I really don't know.

    When we helped the Culvers salvage the disastrous situation they were having with their Joustericon forums, Gloria insisted that the time limit be set to 30 minutes for editing which I felt was way too short, as people often make spelling errors, or wish to add content later they forgot. So, I compromised on 60 minutes, which is where it's been set for the past seven months while a lot of our guests from Jouster were visiting. Gloria said she had a lot of trouble with people posting comments, then going back and changing their meaning many times during the life of a thread, which in-turn created a lot of issues in threads because the context of what people were saying to each kept being altered. Simply put, history was constantly being revised. Kind of like what's happened recently.

    I guess it's pretty simple. Thanks to a whole lot of really good people on here who donated to the Culvers, plus the CSP volunteer moderators led by Bill Hollinger who stepped in and did their best to keep it running, the CSP members have their home back, I assume with a 30 minute edit limit, however, we here at Milsurps.com can now get back to our own lifestyle. Upon reflection and in consideration of your comments, since we didn't have any trouble for years with a NO edit time limit, I've just re-set it back to no time limit to alter posts. I have left the thread title variable set for 1 day, which seems reasonable for permitting someone to change that field.

    Let's see how this goes, however, because we don't see a whole lot of personality confrontations on our board and the ones that we do are usually dealt with quickly through the infractions system or time outs from the site, I assume this return to the old values should be as workable and comfortable as it always was.

    Thanks again for the feedback and I apologize for hijacking your original thread content, but I thought it was important to address your question. ...

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    Thx

    Thanks, Badger. I have always appreciated the maturity level here, and they way in which you run your board. Thank you for seeing my point.

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