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    1941 Long Branch

    I was lucky enough to pick up a 1941 Long Branch recently. It is all matching, except for possibly the stock (the numbers are there, but worn to the point where they can't really be read, though from what I can see they might not match). All metal parts on the rifle have been re-finished with black paint, possibly in Isapore, as there is a hole from an Isapore Screw in the stock (??). The black paint isn't the best, so my question is whether I should leave it alone as part of the rifle's history, or possibly have it removed. I know this might spark great debate; however, I'm going to think long and hard before I do anything to the rifle, and some opinions/suggestions/thoughts one way or the other would really be appreciated.
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    Congratulations, whatever you do, you have a relatively rare rifle. I'd suggest you take the time to take plenty of photographs first and post them here. This will give everybody something to consider.

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    Congratulations on a rare find ...

    As Amatikuluicon said, pics would be helpful ...

    Here's some additional information that might help you ...

    With thanks to Advisory Panelicon member Lance, check out the entry in the Canada - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)

    1941 No.4 Mk1 Long Branch Rifle (click here) .....

    Barrel, receiver, bolt and wood were all match serial numbered on 1941 LB's ...

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    For additional comparisons by collectors, Lance has added pics of "waisted" front sight protectors mounted on a SMLE Mk VI Trials rifle and a No4. Mk1 Trials rifle.

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    A scarce rifle to be sure, but is a Mk 1 or Mk 1*? Just gotta know!

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    Scarce for a couple of reasons

    Quote Originally Posted by jmoore View Post
    A scarce rifle to be sure, but is a Mk 1 or Mk 1*? Just gotta know!
    Not the least of which is because it is a No 4 Mk 1 (no star), which were only (as far as I can tell) only made in 1941. There were less than 15,000 of these made, in round numbers. It seems that some 1942's were made with the bolt takedown AND the bolt slot, (I have one of those, and another person here does, too) and these were marked Mk1*. If anyone has a 1942 NO STAR please let me know so I can update the serial number list.
    Unless you are a total neat freak, leave it alone. Most of mine I leave as I buy them, grimey and dirty, (I do clean the bore, however!) but that may just be because I'm to busy/lazy/etc. to tear them down and scrub them.
    Gotta love those Long Branches...

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    No 4 Mk 1 (no star)

    It is a No 4 Mk 1 (no star). I will post pictures tomorrow. Thanks for the input so far.

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    Never even heard of one w/ both features! Just had to ask in case there DOES exist a 1941 No4 Mk1* no matter how unlikely. Wouldn't hardly be the first time a stupid question resulted in an unexpected answer. Closest one I've got is a 3L which still retains most of its early parts.


    Two 0L rifles in the same thread! (I peeked at the pics below.)
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    Pictures

    Well, here are the photos. I stripped it down last night to find:

    1) Matching numbers on receiver, barrel, bolt, and magazine; still unsure about the stock.

    2) Most small parts stamped with the "LB" symbol including both hand guard bands. The front sight protector appears to be Britishicon.

    3) Back of the receiver (right side, under the bolt handle) and barrel are stamped with the Long Branch crossed flags and the Canadianicon arrow inside the "C" symbol.

    4) Rear sight is stamped "F"; there are also three "F" stamps on the left back side of the receiver.

    5) No Isapore marks

    Paint appears to have been sprayed on based on some thin areas on the barrel. Looks like Krylon.... Any thoughts or help would be appreciated.

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    Not an expert, but are the brass buttplate & the "hollow" bolt handle correct f/this rifle? Just curious.
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    Donzi,

    Based on the Knowledge Libraryicon example (link in Badger's post), the bolt with the hollow in the handle is correct - but the butt plate appears to be zamacicon

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