Telescope, Observing, Sniper's C MK 1

[Nigel]

At that price I am tempted to start typing out a description on eBay of one of my three Canadian scopes. I knew they were valuable but £3,600 .....

[Alan de Enfield]

Great price for the seller - but - I bet he's a bit 'miffed' when ebay take their 10% of the final sales figure, then Paypal take their 4%

So his £3600 sale results in £3096 in the hand !!!

[Surpmil]

At that price I am tempted to start typing out a description on eBay of one of my three Canadian scopes. I knew they were valuable but £3,600 .....

Just out of curiosity, what kind of organization/individual throws three of these in a skip?

[Badger]

That's an incredible price ...

Regards,
Badger

[Surpmil]

CANADIAN CMK1 OBSERVING SNIPER'S TELESCOPE 1944 - eBay (item 120577448288 end time Jun-07-10 13:48:07 PDT)

Another one breaks cover!

[Peter Laidler]

Were these telescope/stands part of the rifle CES, as was the Sct Reg Scope. Or were they just a part of the supplementary issues like the binos, compass and expendable smocks and face veils.

Phew............ the makers of the current repro Mk3's should concentrate their energy into repro-ing these Canadian spotting scopes

[m4carbine]

Now that someone ponied up some serious cash you will see a bunch of these find the light of day I bet.

[Surpmil]

Just for our records here:

This is an extremely rare telescope, serial No 230-C, one of only 500 made. It was the Canadian's way of improving the spotting scope that formed part of the Enfield No.4(T) Sniping rifle complete equipment schedule and would have replaced the British Scout Regiment Telescope. Made at Research Enterprise Limited in Canada in 1944 it arrived too late for World War 2. It was and is an excellent telescope and one that I have used at 1,000 yards. The optics are superb with no blemishes, scratches or chips. The single draw tube is nice and snug and focus is perfect. It is a 25 magnification scope with a 50mm objective and sliding sunshade. Constructed from aluminum the exposed parts are a drab olive and the outer is encased in green vinylite. This particular example is exceptional in that the brown bakerlite eyepiece is intact (the complete scope that recently sold on eBay for £3,600 was missing this part).

Markings are:- TELESCOPE. OBSERVING, SNIPER’S CMK1 CGB 32 M.A. 25x50 R.E.L. / CANADA. 1944 230-C (with a small broad arrow).

The winning bidder will also receive a large photocopy of several pages of a report conducted at the end of the war in the tropics. It compares the Canadian scope and the British Scout Regiment scope and shows what happens when the two are left out in the open for a whole year, measuring fungal growth and ease of operation. The Sct Reg broke down and became unusable after 3 months. The Canadian scope was deemed still fit for service after a whole year - that says a lot about the superb design and construction of this scope.

Were these telescope/stands part of the rifle CES, as was the Sct Reg Scope. Or were they just a part of the supplementary issues like the binos, compass and expendable smocks and face veils.

Phew............ the makers of the current repro Mk3's should concentrate their energy into repro-ing these Canadian spotting scopes

I don't know the answer to that, but I'm going to try and find out...

A very complex bit of kit to replicate in terms of all the unique dies etc. needed to form the case & tripod etc. Don't think that will ever happen.

[Surpmil]

And one other for the files:

This extremely rare telescope, serial No 262, is complete and is one of only 500 made. It was intended to be part of the Complete Equipment Schedule (CES) of the Enfield No 4T Sniping system and would have replaced the Scout Regiment Telescope. Made at Research Enterprise Limited in Canada in 1944 it arrived too late for World War 2. Following the success of four prototypes ,500 of these superb equipments were manufactured to fill an order from the Canadian Army.

The Equipment comprises Telescope, Tripod and Case.

Telescope optics are in excellent condition. The 50mm objective lens delivers a crisp, clear and erect image of 25 Diameters. Constructed from aluminum the exposed parts are a drab olive and the outer is encased in green vinylite. This particular example is exceptional in that the brown bakerlite eyepiece is intact. The telescope is of single draw with an adjustable eyepiece and extending sun shade. Markings are:-

TELESCOPE OBSERVING, SNIPER’S CMK1 CGB 32 M.A 25/50

R.E.L. / CANADA. 1944 262-C (with a small broad arrow).

The case is also constructed from aluminum and covered in green vinylite. It retains the original webbing strap. Within the case rubber moldings which encase the telescope are intact and in excellent condition. A larger finger turned screw on top of the case secures the contents within . The case is marked.

CASE TELESCOPE OBSERVING SNIPER’S CGB197A

R.E.L./ CANADA 1945 298C. (also with a broad arrow).

The Tripod is an exquisite piece of engineering. When folded it is compact enough to fit into an ammunition pouch or a tunic pocket. Erect it is a stable platform which performs well on uneven surface and allows panning to left and right via the main stem which can be locked in position and also affords adjustment in elevation through a large thumb and finger turned screw and gear. Markings are

STAND INSTRUMENT CNO47 MK1. CGB 99 6A

125-C R.E.L. CANADA 1945.

On an extremely nice summmers day in 2007 I used this tlescope on the range at Bisley. It does what it says on the tin.

Further information on this supberb equipment can be found in a book about Canadian Sniping Equipment - Without Warning by Clive Law p.49. It also feature within The British Sniper – British & Commonwealth Sniping & Equipments by Ian Skennerton p.189

[Warren]

And another one surfaces to the count. Scope: 477, tube: 147, stand: 149. I had 6 or 8 tubes at one time but they are all gone now. MIGHT have the numbers somewhere, but it is a moot point. I also recall having stand 249 as well.