Irwin Pedersen Questions

[phillydude]

in war baby it says on page 159
"at the time or the termination of the irwin-pedersen contract,3542 carbines had been assembled but none had been accepted"

OK, now i read that chapter a few times,and i have a few questions
1. where did ruth come up with that number?
2. is this the ammount of carbines made with receivers stamped"irwin-Pedersen "
3. his number seems to be completed carbines, what about good receivers that were never fully assembled that were asssembled at S'G'?
4. Who has an IP?
send me a PM with info on yours so i can ad it to my data on IP's

i think there were more than that, maybe double his number.......
what are your thoughts?

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[BrianQ]

1. Ordnance document
2. no
3. Saginaw made carbines with them
4. me/several

You should read the latest Carbine Club Newsletter.

[DaveHH]

"War Baby Comes Home", he points out that as many as 32,000 IP marked receivers may have survived. And he further states that IP are far from being the rarest carbines.

[phillydude]

i never got too far into war baby comes home, i will start reading more
thing i dont care for too much about the two books are that there is no real type of index to look up spacific things

[Maniac]

I don't have my copy of War Baby! with me here at work but I could have sworn the number of IP marked receivers numbered around 50,000. Going to have to dig around for that info when I get home . . .

[DaveHH]

to expect Ruth to find each interesting point and show a person the way to find it is silly. The books speak for themselves; they are a lifetime's work and a very good read as well. The first step to understanding the books is to read them, repeatedly and form the index in your head. I find them very entertaining as an open and read book as well. Ruth's works are far superior to anything else on the subject.

[WARREN CONNELLEY]

I Thought Commercial Controls Would Be The Rarest???

[kikokat]

Good point Warren. Has anyone actually seen a Commercial Controls carbine? I've never even seen a photo of one.

[Maniac]

to expect Ruth to find each interesting point and show a person the way to find it is silly. The books speak for themselves; they are a lifetime's work and a very good read as well. The first step to understanding the books is to read them, repeatedly and form the index in your head. I find them very entertaining as an open and read book as well. Ruth's works are far superior to anything else on the subject.

I can't agree more Dave Every time I read War Baby! I notice something else that previously escaped my attention, especially when I acquire a "new" carbine of a manufacturer I didn't already own and study up on it. It is way ahead of any other M1 Carbine reference books available although it seems that the carbine collecting community has learned a lot more in the past few years light of all the carbines that have been released by the CMP in that time, especially the Bavarians. It would be nice to see War Baby! get an update with the newest data included.

[Maniac]

"War Baby Comes Home", he points out that as many as 32,000 IP marked receivers may have survived. And he further states that IP are far from being the rarest carbines.

I've looked in my copy of War Baby! for the reference to the 50,000 IP receivers I thought I saw mentioned there but couldn't find it. I own about every major M1Carbine reference book printed, just my luck I may have seen it in Harrison's I'll have to look through War Baby Comes Home next to find that 32,000 figure you mentioned, Dave but in any case I believe whatever number of IP receiver carbines were accepted by the US government are included in the total of 223,620 that S'G' was credited with having produced.