Id this Mauser

[A. F Medic]

My friendly gunsmith took this in to sporterize it! He called me for help with an ID. Couldn't find it in my Mauser book. Any suggestions?
Has a three digit serial number. All match. Numbers match including bolt.


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[gunner]

Hmmm, The bolt looks like from the russian captures, the back sight is like the K98k. The markings on the left of the reciever are this circles in a square?
Mauser Standart I but the bolt handle wouldnt fit for it. ID????
Sorry for being not helpful

Regards

Gunner

[jon_norstog]

A.F.:

That's a pretty nice looking rifle. It looks like a late war K98, but not one that was made by slave labor. Really cheap pine stock with knots. No crest, no stamps, low numbers that match. I'm guessing it was made in the last few weeks of the war, perhaps at Brno? And when the Germans lost their grip, some other authority had the rifles assembled and stamped from what was in stock.

Partisans could have done it. Or maybe it was a Soviet army capture. Or maybe a battalion commander doing some deals on the side.

Looks like it sat in a cosmoline for many years and then was sold off. By whom? To whom?

This is all guesswork. Perhaps the owner can shed some light on it. Where did he buy it?

jn

[kar98k]

A.F.:

That's a pretty nice looking rifle. It looks like a late war K98, but not one that was made by slave labor. Really cheap pine stock with knots. No crest, no stamps, low numbers that match. I'm guessing it was made in the last few weeks of the war, perhaps at Brno? And when the Germans lost their grip, some other authority had the rifles assembled and stamped from what was in stock.

Partisans could have done it. Or maybe it was a Soviet army capture. Or maybe a battalion commander doing some deals on the side.

Looks like it sat in a cosmoline for many years and then was sold off. By whom? To whom?

This is all guesswork. Perhaps the owner can shed some light on it. Where did he buy it?

jn

nothing about that, other than the bolt, trigger guard and rear sight says "German" Mauser to me. they bayonet lug is not correct, the hand guard is wrong, finger grooves in the stock, there are sling loops under the stock, it's a flat buttplate and yet has no take down disc, there appear to be no waffenamts on it. it's definitely not a German model 98k.

this was made by some country (probably after the war) that had access to left over German equipment.

[metzgeri]

I believe she's a Spanish Model 1944 (or atleast partially). The lettering and proof marks on the left of the receiver look the same as these: http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/P...au_0531-19.JPG

From this sight: http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/RiflesMauser.html
Look at Inventory # mau_0531

Also, the bayo lug adapter is what the spanish and Argentines used.

Things that confuse me:
-bolt turned down?? bubba's work??
-no crest??
-different front sight??
-different rear sling loop?? (But still spanish)

She might be a commercial or might have been exported to South America. That's the extent of my S.W.A.G. (scientific wild arse guessing).

metzgeri

[A. F Medic]

Thanks to everybody that contributed to my question. I have to admit it was a tough one to me.
If anybody else has something, please add.....

[Pattern14]

That sling attachment on the butt speaks Spanish to me. Same configuration on an FR-8.

[Alkali]

Metzgeri - You're right on the money on this one. I think the bolt was bent down at the same time the holes for the receiver sight were drilled. Dunno why anyone would remove the crest though.