ShtLE MK v 1923

[bomar97]

My husband and I picked up an Enfield each.. both had already been altered. My No. 4 MK I* Longbranch had been drilled and tapped for a scope ( I don't know why).. so no use in re-glorifying it..

However.. my husband's ShtLE MK V 1923 has good metal with no damage. But we need several pieces to put it back together to original looking.. full stock with bands, cutoff plate and screw, sling, and missing all but the sight on the barrel.

We'll be watching ebay and gunbroker.com for parts, but know it won't be easy finding them for this gem.

Any ideas where to look on a pauper's wages?

Also, would like to find a military manual for it on line.. found one for my no. 4 but there just doesn't seem to be much out there for the MK V.

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[Brit plumber]

Is it a Mk5 trials rifle or a Mk3 your asking about, you mention "all but the sight on the barrel", is this the forsight or the rear sight? as the rear sight on the Mk5 is in the same place as the No4.

There are a couple of ex Enfield engineers who make replica parts for the Mk5here in the UK.

[Amatikulu]

The No.1 Mark V is a great rifle to start a collection with

If you could post some pictures of the rifle i'm sure we'll be able to give you some pointers on what is needed and where you can find it.

In the meantime, here is a link to a company in England where they make reproduction parts for the No.1 Mark V

http://www.efdrifles.com/

[Badger]

There were only about 20,000 of these rifles made between 1922-1924.

Check the England - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here)

Yours is a 1923, whereas the one in the library is a 1924 ShtLE (Short Lee-Enfield) No.1 MkV Rifle (Mfg by RSAF Enfield).

Examine the 117 picture photo montage, which might help you with some of your questions.

Regards,
Badger

[bomar97]

Thank you.

It's what I believe they call a no. 1 MK V .. I've heard there are trials guns and production done at the same time???

The rear sight is on there.. goes to 1400 yds. I read somewhere that the "trials" went to 1500 yds.. some of what we read is confusing.

And I meant that with all the hardware on the muzzle end of the barrel, the only thing there is the front sight.. I don't know what the "wings" are called or anything else that goes on the front.

I'll try to get a pic out soon.

Also tried emailing the efdrifles but it came back undeliverable, so was unsure of this site. used the info@ addy.

[Badger]

The rear sight is on there.. goes to 1400 yds. I read somewhere that the "trials" went to 1500 yds.. some of what we read is confusing.

And I meant that with all the hardware on the muzzle end of the barrel, the only thing there is the front sight.. I don't know what the "wings" are called or anything else that goes on the front.

Again, check the photo montage pic by pic against your rifle and I think you'll have a much better idea what is and isn't missing...

Pics would be good ...

Examples ..

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Regards,
Badger

[iringtwice]

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[A. F Medic]

Just for the heck of it, I have 2294 without the letter.........

[Terry Hawker]

Thank you.

It's what I believe they call a no. 1 MK V .. I've heard there are trials guns and production done at the same time???

The rear sight is on there.. goes to 1400 yds. I read somewhere that the "trials" went to 1500 yds.. some of what we read is confusing.

And I meant that with all the hardware on the muzzle end of the barrel, the only thing there is the front sight.. I don't know what the "wings" are called or anything else that goes on the front.

I'll try to get a pic out soon.

Also tried emailing the efdrifles but it came back undeliverable, so was unsure of this site. used the info@ addy.

Bomar 97,

Take a look at item number two of the Collectors Comments and Feedback section at the end of the article Badger recommended. There you will find photographs answering the first two points you raised.

The regular production run of some 20,000-odd, No. 1 Mk V rifles, ran from 1922-24, but, the actual Trials rifles were made several years before that period. The confusion stems from those that erroneously insist on calling this production run, "trials" rifles, in my opinion.

The photos mentioned will show that what you read is correct. The rear sights of the regular production run Mk V rifles went to 1400 yards, while the Trials rifle's rear sight was indeed calibrated to 1500 yards, the different position of the index line on the ladder of the Trials rifle accounting for difference.

Terry

[bomar97]

Bomar 97,

Take a look at item number two of the Collectors Comments and Feedback section at the end of the article Badger recommended. There you will find photographs answering the first two points you raised.

The regular production run of some 20,000-odd, No. 1 Mk V rifles, ran from 1922-24, but, the actual Trials rifles were made several years before that period. The confusion stems from those that erroneously insist on calling this production run, "trials" rifles, in my opinion.

The photos mentioned will show that what you read is correct. The rear sights of the regular production run Mk V rifles went to 1400 yards, while the Trials rifle's rear sight was indeed calibrated to 1500 yards, the different position of the index line on the ladder of the Trials rifle accounting for difference.

Terry

Thank you. I never saw anything as to when the trial guns were made. It's clear that this one is indeed a production run.
I really am planning to get a pic up.. honest!