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    Charger loading enfields?

    I've been reading up on PH6a sights at Service and TArget Rifle Sights ~ Parker-Hale and B.S.A.
    who say the 6a was for long lees and charger loading lee enfields.

    Is a charger loading enfield a particular type ie ccle, or does it mean any enfield that charges from a clip ie no1 mk3?
    I'm not very familiar with enfields before no1's so the designations are a bit confusing.
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    It just means the Long rifles converted to charger loading.
    The bracket needs to be different because there is no safety catch on the side of the action.


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    Okaay, gotcha! thanks, now I get it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJW NZicon View Post
    I've been reading up on PH6a sights at Service and TArget Rifle Sights ~ Parker-Hale and B.S.A.
    who say the 6a was for long lees and charger loading lee enfields.

    Is a charger loading enfield a particular type ie ccle, or does it mean any enfield that charges from a clip ie no1 mk3?
    I'm not very familiar with enfields before no1's so the designations are a bit confusing.
    Roger, you've no doubt already familiarized yourself with the Charger Loading Lee Enfield ( CLLE ), but I just thought I'd post photo's of two CLLE's that I currently own for your reference. Both of these rifles were converted in 1909 at Vickers Son & Maxim ( VSM ). One of these was then reissued in January of 1910 and is so stamped on the butt stock. That particular rifle also has an unworn bore that is just about mint. I think that both of these rifles are still sighted for the earlier Mk V or Mk VI cartridge The rear sights on each are differently graduated. and neither is marked for HV ammo. However, they both have the narrow front sight blade and have rear sights that are finely adjustable for bullet drift and elevation, so I would think that sighting them in for Mk VII ammo would be easily accomplished. Both of my rifles were missing their original clearing rods and rod retaining nuts, as per their official elimination in May of 1899, However I replaced these again because I didn't like the empty rod channels. The one rifle with the stenciled markings on the butt stock of "73" and "KWC" was probably used at King Williams College on The Isle Of Man by their OfficerTraining Program. It has a type 2 magazine and the other rifle has a type 3 magazine. Fred

























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    KWC. King William College Cadet Force. Located on the Isle of Man as I recall - if you didn't already know Fred. A long way from Nebraska

    Oooops......... just read it and you DO know. Oh well, nothing lost, nothing gained!

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    Thanks Peter! King William College CADET FORCE, I didn't know the full designation and really only took an educated guess at what KWC meant. Thanks again! Yes, the rifle has traveled a Very long way, hasn't it? Fred

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred G. View Post
    Thanks Peter! King William College CADET FORCE, I didn't know the full designation and really only took an educated guess at what KWC meant.
    Cadet Force is not quite what it would have been called. Prior to the Second World War, it would have been the Officer Training Corps. Post WWII it will have been the Combined Cadet Force or CCF. I speak as a former member of the CCF - but not that one.

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    I like you dog Fred, but is that not a Gew98 in the photo with him? How off topic can you get? Oh, and NICE collection Thanks for sharing.

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