Korean Garands Update

[Badger]

Ok folks, can we just drop this subject for now ....

It's been beat to death so many ways in other similar threads , I've lost count ....

Korean Carbines and Garands?

Any chance korean carbines

Non-political question about proposed sale of Korean M1s

Korean Carbines and Garands?

There are enough other gun sites on the Internet with publicly accessible forums (you don't have to even register) which are about politics, Obama, Muslims, immigration, ugly looking women democrats and other silly nonsense, overwhelmed with posts from folks sharing their frustrations in the same sandbox. That stuff can spread like wildfire and destroy the unity and purpose of a site very quickly, so I simply don't want to see it get any kind of foothold here.

Thanks guys... appreciate keeping the focus on collecting old milsurps and away from politics and religion.

Regards,
Doug

[Bob Seijas]

The hold-up is simple: CMP says they are MAP and therefore ours, the Koreans say these are guns they bought. No serial lists of MAP guns, so the dispute goes on.

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Sorry, Badger, didn't see your request to drop the subject

[Badger]

The hold-up is simple: CMP says they are MAP and therefore ours, the Koreans say these are guns they bought. No serial lists of MAP guns, so the dispute goes on.

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Sorry, Badger, didn't see your request to drop the subject

No problem Bob ...

The only reason that this topic survives at all on our collector oriented site, is the fact that the content does have a some specific interest and orientation to Garands (an old milsurp), so the moderators tend to let all of them run until they begin to degrade into political rhetoric, anger and frustration, which I can personally relate to living in Canada with our own draconian gun laws.

Regards,
Doug

[John R.]

I was "fortunate" enough to actually SEE the Korean Garands and Carbines back in the late 1990's in company with a well known and now retired CANADIAN importer of such things.

What none of you have taken into consideration conditionwise is that there are 5 to 6 K CANNED GARANDS and probably 7 to 8 K M1 Carbines ALSO in"cans",We photographed them at the time and I forwarded photos to"BODYMAN" a few years ago and asked him to post them "nonymousely" which he did ; just for schitts and grins.

What almost brought me to TEARS was seeing the MINT/NEW M1C's and D's and WWII Military Shotguns like mdl 97's and Mdl 12's etc that they HAD CUT UP.Smashed the glass and just threw the detritus into open top crates.They ALSO parted out thousands of rifles and also just threw the parts into crates as well.

Worse yet the retired Colonel who was the"designated hitter" with the"IN" with the relevant Generals wanted HIS 15pct up front i.e., BEFORE you were allowed to put in your offer.

This is the same guy who screwed all and sundry re the Korean AMMO fiasco where they "declipped" a few zillion rds and poured them LOOSE into crates sans bandoliers etc and ammo cans after they SOLD the stuff as being IN CLIPS/BANDOLIERS AND CANS.Trust the Kimchees to do the dirty in EVERY business deal concerning surplus too.

They DO HAVE those "CANNED" rifles and carbines and if Bob Seijas were to ask Jeff to repost the 1990's photos taken at the Korean Ordnance Depot again; you'll see what I mean.Of course you can EXPECT the CMP to cry a river about how those ARE THEIR RIFLES and get all bitter and twisted too.

Most of you in Canada have already SEEN and perhaps BOUGHT the odd"CANNED" M1 already.Do any of you recall the MINT Danish NAVY Garands that Alan Lever had for sale in August 1998 ?The ones with the little Danish Navy ANCHOR and inventory number on the rear sight covers I mean? THOSE WERE "CANNED" Garands right out of the drums and never issued.All were Post WWII Springfield Armory and Raritan Arsenal REBUILDS of course but the rebuild spec was"SHALL BE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM NEW" and they WERE.I KNOW because I am sitting here typing this looking at TEN of them in the front row of my safe.

Don't expect to see ANY of them either. ESPECIALLY in the hands of the CMP who would attempt to "AUCTION" them all off for stupid money in their inimitable way.Watching them selling to DEALERS really made them drop in my esteem.

The are LOTS of really nice rifles in Korea to be sure but they will be the very LAST ONES sold,trust me on that one Sportsfans.JR

[bulldog_mack13]

The CMP's rule of one rifle a lifetime really was nice not to have dealers selling 900.00 or 1,000 dollar M1's they get from the CMP at 600.00 like they do now. Oh well.

JR you really sound like your talking from years of experiance. You talk , I listen.

[Brian Dick]

There are a few dealers out there who still abide by the original DCM/CMP rule. I happen to be one of them.

[Bodyman]

You mean these?

[Calif-Steve]

"The CMP's rule of one rifle a lifetime really was nice not to have dealers selling 900.00 or 1,000 dollar M1's they get from the CMP at 600.00 like they do now. Oh well. " Actually the "CMP's rule" was in fact the DCM's rule. I THINK the US Army determined that rule and then allowed 1200 rifles to be shipped per year. It took me 5 years to get my Garand. My DCM Garand came from Rock Island, not Anniston. Of course no dealer got anything in thoses days. Everything is different today.

[Bodyman]

[DaveN]

Bodyman, did they pack other arms like that? If I found one or more(just one of those recurring dreams I have) cans and opened them and had Thompsons and Bars, well thats how the dream becomes a nightmare, and I end up with a lot of freshly dug holes in my back yard.