+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: Catastrophic M1A failure

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Senior Moderator
    (Milsurp Forums)
    Bill Hollinger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-19-2024 @ 11:54 PM
    Location
    Pacific Northwest, Oregon
    Posts
    6,021
    Real Name
    Bill Hollinger
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    11:21 PM

    Announcement Catastrophic M1A failure

    This is an article on a catastrophic M1Aicon failure. This is being posted with the permission of Dean Speir at thegunzone.com. Read the entire article as it has a complete failure analysis and updates. It is an older article but very good.

    http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb.html
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Bill Hollinger

    "We're surrounded, that simplifies our problem!"

  2. The Following 7 Members Say Thank You to Bill Hollinger For This Useful Post:


  3. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  4. #2
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    colt100's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    10-19-2013 @ 06:04 PM
    Posts
    40
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    01:21 AM
    So basically, if I read it right, it was defective barrel steel that caused this? Talk about hitting the wrong lottery. Glad he wasn't seriously injured.

  5. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  6. #3
    Senior Moderator
    (Milsurp Forums)
    Bill Hollinger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last On
    04-19-2024 @ 11:54 PM
    Location
    Pacific Northwest, Oregon
    Posts
    6,021
    Real Name
    Bill Hollinger
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    11:21 PM
    Thread Starter
    It looks that way. The barrel was stressed beyond it's limit and because it's defects.
    Bill Hollinger

    "We're surrounded, that simplifies our problem!"

  7. #4
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    campperrykid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last On
    10-30-2011 @ 10:42 AM
    Location
    SE USA
    Posts
    206
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    01:21 AM
    That is a very impressive KB .

  8. #5
    Contributing Member Buntlineguy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last On
    04-25-2024 @ 11:30 PM
    Location
    Akron, Ohio
    Posts
    115
    Real Name
    Ronald Rose
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    02:21 AM
    I also had a failure of my Springfield M1Aicon. The rear of the hammer that catches on the sear broke off. After firing, the next round detonated before entering the chamber. I was hit in the head (not seriously) bu the handguard. Also the trigger assembly was about an inch out of the gun. After installing a new hammer I gave a second close inspection to the gun and found a small crack at the rear of the receiver. I pulled the bolt back a couple of times and the whole rear fell off. Close inspection of the steel reveals inconsistency in the steel. I suspect Japaneseicon steel was used. (yes I worked at steel mills before retiring) I have sent the gun back to Springfield. I haven't heard anything back yet, but will post the outcome.
    I would recommend that anyone shooting a recent production Springfield M1A to use light loads and wear safety glasses.
    B

  9. #6
    Amsdorf
    Guest Amsdorf's Avatar
    I'm no expert, but from the looks of it, that ain't going to buff out.

  10. #7
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    campperrykid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Last On
    10-30-2011 @ 10:42 AM
    Location
    SE USA
    Posts
    206
    Local Date
    04-27-2024
    Local Time
    01:21 AM
    Scary stuff :
    Quote Originally Posted by Buntlineguy View Post
    I also had a failure of my Springfield M1Aicon. The rear of the hammer that catches on the sear broke off. After firing, the next round detonated before entering the chamber. I was hit in the head (not seriously) bu the handguard. Also the trigger assembly was about an inch out of the gun. After installing a new hammer I gave a second close inspection to the gun and found a small crack at the rear of the receiver. I pulled the bolt back a couple of times and the whole rear fell off. Close inspection of the steel reveals inconsistency in the steel. I suspect Japaneseicon steel was used. (yes I worked at steel mills before retiring) I have sent the gun back to Springfield. I haven't heard anything back yet, but will post the outcome.
    I would recommend that anyone shooting a recent production Springfield M1A to use light loads and wear safety glasses.
    B
    I had an early M1A for a number of years and finally sold it. The serial number was somewhere around 001970 or close to that . I do not recall how many zeros the SN included.

    ETA :
    I wonder if any issues have been reported with the early recievers ?
    Last edited by campperrykid; 09-18-2011 at 07:17 AM. Reason: Afterthought.

  11. #8
    Legacy Member us019255's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Last On
    03-30-2024 @ 04:12 PM
    Location
    reluctantly in Santiago, MN
    Age
    81
    Posts
    266
    Real Name
    Ed Hauser
    Local Date
    04-26-2024
    Local Time
    11:21 PM
    I think I remember that I read a few years ago about a similar type of barrel failure with some Lee-Enfield No. 4 rifles in the UKicon that had been used since WWII in military schools. If I remember properly, they were removed from active service in the marksmanship program.
    Ed reluctantly no longer in the Bitterroot

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Failure to feed in my Husqvarna M38
    By watermoccasin in forum Mauser Rifles
    Replies: 22
    Last Post: 05-24-2011, 04:26 PM
  2. Is this a common failure?
    By Rumpelhardt in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 12-18-2010, 11:37 AM
  3. Combining a DP Enfield, a Shooter and a Gunsmith ended up with catastrophic failure!
    By Old Joe in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 73
    Last Post: 10-13-2010, 03:46 PM
  4. M14 rifle/M2 bipod failure
    By jmoore in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 02-08-2010, 03:03 AM
  5. Record of 03 Failure in WWI
    By Jim Tarleton in forum M1903/1903A3/A4 Springfield Rifle
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 05-23-2009, 08:26 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts