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    unissued springfield stocks.

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    I recently ordered what is supposedly an unissued c stock from holland that was intended for degauls french troops. it arrived today in mint condition minus some heavy brown paper stuck to the handguard and given some steel wool and linseed oilicon should clean up very nicely but I have some concerns. there are no cartouches or proofs anywhere on it so I was wondering whether an unissued stock would be in this condition or if I just unknowingly purchased a reproduction stock.
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    There should be a flaming bomb proof on the very tip of the stock where the barrel peeks out. SOME (but not all) makers also stamped a letter in the dish cut for the bolt stop.

    The rest of the "proofs" you are looking for were added by the armorers when they fit a stock to the rifle, gauged that fit to be correct, and then test fired the assembled arm. un-fitted replacement stocks would not have those assembly and firing proofs (ahead of the trigger guard, P at the stock wrist, factory/armory ID stamp and the ordnance wheel).

    It's likely real.
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    Claven has it figured out. When FN closed it small arms plant years back, piles of new/mint parts showed up in the US. Northridge Int'l got most/all of it. They brought over tons of parts but the bulk is still in Europe. Likely the stock is out of the FN plant. Likey real, as well.

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    so for resale purposes does it hurt the value if it doesn't have any proofs?

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    Well, no re-stocked rifle will be worth as much as a WW2 original with proper cartouches - but it would be worth more than one stocked by Boyd's or whatever.
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    If someone just wants a stock to make a shooter the stocks are excellent. If someone is wanting to restore a rifle, they would want it with the proper acceptance marks and P proof.

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    the flaming bomb stamp is a Remington mark, as well as a RIA mark...not all replacement stocks came with that mark...
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    My bad The two "unissued/unfitted" stocks I had in front of me were both Remingtons.
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    I'm curious as to the marking in the magazine cutoff notch. Replacement stocks made for USGI arsenals had an "S" (Springfield Armory) or "K" (Keystone) in the cutoff notch. I'd be surprised if FN actually made stocks, American Walnut being fairly difficult to get in Europe during WW2. FN had a huge contract to rebuild M1icon rifles in 1947-1949, but not 1903-type rifles.

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    I just noticed on my scant stock I bought from Dupage that it doesnt have the "P" proof on the grip or any rebuild stamps on the left side or in front of the front action screw. It has a 4 digit number on the right side but stock - like the greeks, and a letter "U" on the under side of the butt. Interesting.

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