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Ive got a decent national ord m 1 carbine that I bought at a show last year from a guy that was selling his stuff to eat. Tonight he calls me and now has a job and some $ again and wants to trade it back to him for a "brand new" Auto Ord carbine. His story is that his dad gave him the one he sold me and he would like to get it back. Everything I'm seeing about the AO is not good,propriotary parts,poor qc,pickey about mags, an so forth. The NO will take any mag Ive got and only had one ftf but it does have an aftermarket folder on it that I dont like.Thing is, I'd rather live with the folder and have something that goes bang every time as opposed tosomething new that is only good as a club sometimes! Please give me some advise here!
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john
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My LGS has sold three of the AO carbines. And all three have come back for issues.
Jim
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Mule,
A tough spot, agreed.
Heart wants to say (if true) get his Fathers gun back to him.
But you can't short change yourself.
I've never used a NO, but have heard more negatives than positives about them.
I'd agree with the Sarge, owning a GI would be the best bet, but they are getting pricey.
Any idea what a 'New A O' is worth?
As in re-sale, to upgrade to GI.
Good Luck,
CH-P777
Jim,
I must haved stayed up tooooo late.
Took me about 10 minutes to figure out LGS...... must stand for Local Gun Shop.
I bet your a TEXTING FOOL !! 
Cheers,
Charlie-painter777
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Charlie,
I have never sent a text message. I have a flip top LG phone that is 7 years old. I checked my minutes, I use on average 4 minutes a month. My wife on the other hand......
I don't like them.
But you are correct on LGS. I think I picked that up on the 1911 forum. Hope that wasn't 10 minutes of sleep you lost. 
I have been going to this shop for over 20 years. I check out and help with the carbines they get in.
Jim
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Jim,
I must haved stayed up tooooo late.
Took me about 10 minutes to figure out LGS...... must stand for Local Gun Shop.
I bet your a TEXTING FOOL !!
Cheers,
Charlie-painter777
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I can't TEXT either and get by just fine. Drives me nuts watching the kids today walking like zombies while texting.
What to do about this NO vs AO is the question.
I don't need to be side tracking this post more than I already have.
CH-P777
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I know my best bet is a GI,but thats not on the table now.I also know that getting the NO back to him IF his story is true,would be the right thing to do, but I have no way of knowing that. It COULD be that the whole thing from day one is a scam and he just wants a better piece than the AO ,which he may have picked up on the cheap at another show.
Ive searched around and havent seen any good comments about the AO's.At the "carbine club" they say that parts are "special" for the AO and that "hand fitting will be required". Dont most of the parts on my NO interchange with GI?
This is a hard call from a moral standpoint,but I have no use for a wepon that needs constant attention and is not reliable.
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My general nature is to be cynical, I read your posting again and I'd be very careful of a guy who knows enough to be selling at a gun show and has military repro's from two manufacturers that raise the immediate RED FLAG to a knowledgeable buyer. The NO works to your satisfaction, but you'll be very lucky to ever get what you paid for it when you're done with it, don't trade for a similar product you have researched and know has problems. Money only and at least what you paid for it, more if you have anything invested, I picture this guy as one just looking for a mark. He may be on the level, but the opinions you've received so far should be fair warning.
It's good that you asked because there are many who are unaware of the reputation for those non-GI carbines. I think most of us would admit that at some point in our life we would have bought something we later learned was not a wise investment. You are at least enjoying the NO so you are ahead of the curve at this point.
Again, Good Luck
Just saw an Underwood for sale on Jouster
for $650, that's GI, compare to what you have or are being offered....food for thought.
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Sarge,I'm inclined to agree with what you are saying.Since I bought the NO,Ive picked up several more mags and a few hundred rounds for it. I think the best deal for me would be to offer to sell the whole deal back to him for what Ive got invested,then look for a decent GI.Maybe keep the ammo and mags because they would work with a different carbine. I think if he really wants it for the reasons he stated,he will do it,if not I'll know why.
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mule,
That seems more then fair. Let him sell the AO and bring you cash.
If it does have a family tie, he should be willing to pay you, what you paid him. The other mags and ammo you picked up will work fine when you do get a GI carbine. I do not see a reason in trade and receive something that will cause you trouble down the road.
Jim
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