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Let's see.... Ticket on the Titanic or a ticket on the Britannic... which do I sail on???
I agree with those above about the cash sale.
Explain that you will be glad to reunite him with his father's carbine, but you have no use for the A.O. Ask him for cash - if he keeps or sells the A.O. is his business.
N.O.'s have a LITTLE bit better reputation than the A.O., but you will do yourself good to put any cash you get on the sale-back on a USGI.
Just my two cents...
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AO carbines are AWFUL! I had one, and it took three tries to get wood that fit it from customer service. It would not feed reliably from even 15 round GI mags. I sold it to a re-enactor who plugged it for blanks, thus saving a USGI from that fate. Have him sell the AO and pay you cash.
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Yes I would sell it back to him for the original sale price,maybe a few bucks more but that would depend on if I was more intimite with the situation to make that decision. Keep the ammo and mags and pick up a shooter GI Carbine for around 600.00 to 700.00 GI ones will increase in value. Those two non GI models are pretty much in the stagnate category as far as any appreciation is concerned.
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Just to clarify, I am not a USGI carbine snob. Plainfields (especially early ones), National Ordnance, and even earlier Universals can be decent little rifles. I had a VERY early Universal with mostly GI parts, and it was a great shooter. I am just appalled by Auto Ordnance carbines terrible quality control, and shared that experience on the old Culver Carbine forum, back in the day. Besides mine, I worked at a gunshop part time on weekends. We sold two, and both came back on warranty for chronic FTF, FTE, and FTF(ire).
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I guess he doesnt want it as bad as he says. I offered to sell it back LESS mags and ammo and he "cant afford that". guess he should have called me before he picked up the AO. Thanks for all the input!
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I think he was trying to take advantage of you and that his story was BS. Probably figured out the AO doesn't work and the one he sold you does. If it was true about his dad giving him the rifle he'd at least exchange contact info and ask if you'd reconsider an even return when he DID have the funds. Enjoy your rifle, you're happy with it and I'm sure you'll add some more when you can, let us know when you get some friends for her.
Last edited by Sarge1998; 08-07-2012 at 01:55 PM.
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A Sgt/ on my Sheriiff's office had a National Ordnance carbine. Except for the receiver, everything was GI. I don't think it was one with the milled 1903 barrel, as it was parked, though I do not recall what maaker was on the barrel. It was a good shooter, and he qualified on the 100 yard long gun course every time.
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It is sometimes a wrong position but
when someone comes to me with a problem and tries to make it my problem, I usually say no. He sold his Dad's carbine, he has a problem. Now he's passing it on to you to solve for him. It may not even be true. Admittedly it isn't much of a big deal as both guns are not GI, but he may just have made himself another problem by buying an AO, and now has two problems for you to solve for him. I would do whatever is best for you and not him, selfish? Maybe, but you just bought a gun, not some guy's problem or his life story.
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I've got an AO carbine. It works fine for me. I use Pro Mag mags, which work fne. It eats Tulammo without fail. I did have to work the wood a bit so that it didn't feel like it was about to fall off. Overall I like the gun. Now if the person I bought it from came to me and wanted it back for the same money? I wouldn't even hesitate. I'd put a big bow on it and take the money and put it towards a USGI M 1 Carbine.