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Gunbroker auction. Considered and decided to ask a question about this one.
Firstly before anyone gets annoyed I'm aware we're not supposed to show active auctions, and there have been threads regarding teh reasons. I absolutely respect that in a short auction cycle, however, this item has been on GB for months now and isn't seling for fairly evident reasons, and anyone who searches for enfield, 303 or P14 will have seen it many times. However having said that I have never seen a rear sight on a P14 like the one shown in pictures and the accompanying pamphlet. Is this what he says it is?
Enfield P14(F) Sniper..UPDATED INFO! Look! : Bolt Action Rifles at GunBroker.com
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08-20-2012 11:46 PM
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I fail to comprehend why a sniper rifle would have volley sights affixed. It also seems to lack any form of scope mounting abilities, which is beguiling to me seeing as he continually refers to it as a sniper rifle.
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If it is genuine - which is probably impossible to verify - then it is a P14(F), a rifle fitted with a "fine adjustment" rearsight intended to be used by a designated sniper/sharpshooter/marksman. As such, it is indeed technically an official issue "sniper rifle", even though it is not fitted for a scope.
As the rearsight number does not match the rifle, there is no way of telling whether the rifle was ever a proper service "(F)" model, or if a subsequent civilian owner has just added the sight - a very common occurrence. I'm not even sure that many (F) rifles have survived intact - I'd guess that most of them would have had the non-standard rearsight removed when the No3 Mk1*(T)s were introduced, and the rifles returned to the pool.
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So he's selling a US$1500 sight with a rifle attached to it so it doesn't get lost?
But someone might just have to have it regardless- he hopes!
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So the sight is legit' then - just not necessarily specific to this rifle, and of course there is no provenence on this rifle being what he says it is.
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As for what that sight is ACTUALLY worth I haven't the foggiest. I just pulled a number that was sure to be the lion's share of the "package price". But if the matching rifle happened to show up, then it would be quite a bit. Now I have to look and see if my scoped rifle has the "right" sight... all these years and it never occurred to me to check....
BTW, it's a fairly nice rifle except that the front volley sight assembly seems to be fresher than the rest of the metal. Could be the photo, but it's a warning flag. I just can't buy this kind of stuff without a "hands on". Which is good for y'all, I reckon!
Last edited by jmoore; 08-21-2012 at 05:17 AM.
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I seen one of these sights sold on ebay cant remember when it was, possibly in the last year or two, but it sold for a high price and not that far off JM,s quote.
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The F sight sold for something between 400 and 600 US $, if I remember correctly. Wish I had bought it, but imho way too much money for a rear sight. However, all P.14 offered on gunbroker seem to be priced over the top anyway (at least compared to European prices).
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Just checked a few and none of them have serial numbers matching on the (F) sight to the gun. AND,some have the front volley sight: complete,just a plate or as in the photo..a blank hole.
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