Ardennes relic

[John Gelotti]

This Garand was found in the ardennes (Belgium) in a barn.
I want to share some pics.

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[AZPhil]

It looks great for being in a barn.
But with the year of 4-44 that is on the barrel, shouldn't the trigger guard be the milled type and not the stamped type?

I knew a John Gelotti when I was in the Marine Corp stationed at MCAS Yuma in the early 80's ,Any relation?

[Matteo]

wow, awesome!! when was it found?

have a great day

[Sarge1998]

It looks great for being in a barn.
But with the year of 4-44 that is on the barrel, shouldn't the trigger guard be the milled type and not the stamped type?

I knew a John Gelotti when I was in the Marine Corp stationed at MCAS Yuma in the early 80's ,Any relation?

According to Canfield as well as Harrison, Springfield began using stamped trigger guards from about April of 1944, at that time they began appearing but the supplies on hand for the milled version were also being used up; Winchester only used the milled guard save for a few Win-13 rifles. As with any of this information errors do occur in research.

[lude92]

WOW!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe that was found in a barn and looks like that.....All you got to do is clean off what looks like mildew (not realy sure) and you have a very nice m1 garand ....Post more when you find more history about it and hopefully you take to the range.

[AZPhil]

According to Canfield as well as Harrison, Springfield began using stamped trigger guards from about April of 1944, at that time they began appearing but the supplies on hand for the milled version were also being used up; Winchester only used the milled guard save for a few Win-13 rifles. As with any of this information errors do occur in research.

Well Thank you very much for that info Sarge! I wasn't sure of the exact date but thought it was later in the war. If that is the case then the OP found a diamond in the rough and it not that rough to Boot!!!!
Very Nice. Thanks for sharing the Pic.

[John Gelotti]

The rifle was full of dust and all the metal parts who are outside the wood has a "brown" shine. I think the trigger guard has to be correct for this (February/march 44) garand (serial 269XXXX), it has the same color as the rest of the metal parts and it was not easy to fieldstrip the rifle, I think this was years ago!

[Matteo]

ok, you own a rifle that fought Ardennes, and god knows what else before... I do envy you a bit

have a great day

[RCS]

SARG 1998, I saw your post about Winchester using some stamped trigger guards in late Win 13 production. My questions, do you remember where you saw this published ? also would Winchester have applied their drawing number ? would there be a difference in production as compared to SA ?

It was my understanding that Winchester used the milled trigger guard to the end -

I have collected early Winchesters since the 80's but never really got past 1941 except for one '42 example

[Sarge1998]

SARG 1998, I saw your post about Winchester using some stamped trigger guards in late Win 13 production. My questions, do you remember where you saw this published ? also would Winchester have applied their drawing number ? would there be a difference in production as compared to SA ?

It was my understanding that Winchester used the milled trigger guard to the end -

I have collected early Winchesters since the 80's but never really got past 1941 except for one '42 example

Collecting the Garand II, A Collector's Field Guide by J.C. Harrison, picked this up at CMP North. Page 35 Type 7, WRA Stamped mentions Rare use on WIN-13 rifles only. The bottom right corner of Page 34 shows a drawing for a WRA Stamped WIN-13, additional explanation of unique features are listed next to Type 7 description on page 35. How he determined this or what he based this information on I have no idea, which is why I added that last statement. Hope that helps.