+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Americal Flag 48 Stars

Click here to increase the font size Click here to reduce the font size
  1. #1
    Legacy Member Bizio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Last On
    03-04-2024 @ 01:00 PM
    Location
    Milan, Italy
    Age
    62
    Posts
    424
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    07:44 PM

    Americal Flag 48 Stars

    Hi everybody.
    I went today to a military fair outside Milan and I bought an American Flag vintage with 48 stars.
    Its brand is Valley Forge Flag Co. and in second line there is its size 5 x 9 1 /2 FT. and in slightly different color a print "1942" at immediate right of "FT."
    The stars are sewn.

    I have not taken any pictures yet but I have found a very similar at ebay.com but without any year printed.

    Moderator Note: Link removed at the request of Leslie keemen at leslie.keemen@gmail.com, owner of web site listed. Not sure what their problem is, but I'd recommend that our members avoid eBay auctions by them and also avoid using their web site altogether.

    Do you think the print "1942" might be a fake ?
    Which year could be possibly dated such a Flag ?

    Thank you.

    ---------- Post added at 07:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 PM ----------

    I do apologize, I mistyped the topic title ...
    Information
    Warning: This is a relatively older thread
    This discussion is older than 360 days. Some information contained in it may no longer be current.
    Last edited by Badger; 01-04-2013 at 11:31 AM.
    Salu2 a to2
    Bizio
    FISAT Life Member & NRA Life Member

  2. # ADS
    Friends and Sponsors
    Join Date
    October 2006
    Location
    Milsurps.Com
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    All Threads
    A Collector's View - The SMLE Short Magazine Lee Enfield 1903-1989. It is 300 8.5x11 inch pages with 1,000+ photo’s, most in color, and each book is serial-numbered.  Covering the SMLE from 1903 to the end of production in India in 1989 it looks at how each model differs and manufacturer differences from a collecting point of view along with the major accessories that could be attached to the rifle. For the record this is not a moneymaker, I hope just to break even, eventually, at $80/book plus shipping.  In the USA shipping is $5.00 for media mail.  I will accept PayPal, Zelle, MO and good old checks (and cash if you want to stop by for a tour!).  CLICK BANNER to send me a PM for International pricing and shipping. Manufacturer of various vintage rifle scopes for the 1903 such as our M73G4 (reproduction of the Weaver 330C) and Malcolm 8X Gen II (Unertl reproduction). Several of our scopes are used in the CMP Vintage Sniper competition on top of 1903 rifles. Brian Dick ... BDL Ltd. - Specializing in British and Commonwealth weapons Specializing in premium ammunition and reloading components. Your source for the finest in High Power Competition Gear. Here at T-bones Shipwrighting we specialise in vintage service rifle: re-barrelling, bedding, repairs, modifications and accurizing. We also provide importation services for firearms, parts and weapons, for both private or commercial businesses.
     

  3. #2
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    HILLBILLY-06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last On
    07-14-2017 @ 07:49 AM
    Location
    Alabama U.S.
    Posts
    158
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    01:44 PM
    HI Bizio, I am not sure the best answer to your question, but I found this place very interesting reading on Valley Forge Flags, perhaps if the copy and paste works good, you may also enjoy, and its a great place to see some history on the Flags made by them.......Valley Forge Flag Company Information History

  4. Avoid Ads - Become a Contributing Member - Click HERE
  5. #3
    FREE MEMBER
    NO Posting or PM's Allowed
    HILLBILLY-06's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Last On
    07-14-2017 @ 07:49 AM
    Location
    Alabama U.S.
    Posts
    158
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    01:44 PM
    I also found this Question & answer page at one of thier sights..........FAQ | Valley Forge Flag
    They indicated here on this page that they don't date thier flags, etc... but here is an exert on why they are exactly that long, I hope evryone can appreciate this article, for those who didn't know: Q: I have a 48-star U.S. flag that measures 5’x9 ½’. Why is this flag so long?
    A: Many 48-star flags were manufactured before, during and after World War II. These flags were usually made from either cotton or a cotton-wool blend. Some of the flags are casket flags, meaning that they measure 5’x9 ½’ instead of 5’x8’. These flags are made to be placed on a casket during a funeral. Since Valley Forge Flag does not add any date to a flag when manufactured; there is no way to determine just how old a flag is. It is perfectly acceptable to fly United Statesicon flags with fewer than 50 stars. 48-star United States flags rarely hold any monetary value, only sentimental value. Usually a flag only has monetary value if it can be directly linked to a major historical moment, such as the flag raised over Iwo Jima, or the flag used during John F. Kennedy’s funeral, both of which were made by Valley Forge Flag.

  6. #4
    Legacy Member Bizio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Last On
    03-04-2024 @ 01:00 PM
    Location
    Milan, Italy
    Age
    62
    Posts
    424
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    07:44 PM
    Thread Starter
    Thank you for your help and answers, HILLBILLY-06.
    Salu2 a to2
    Bizio
    FISAT Life Member & NRA Life Member

  7. #5
    Legacy Member Bizio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Last On
    03-04-2024 @ 01:00 PM
    Location
    Milan, Italy
    Age
    62
    Posts
    424
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    07:44 PM
    Thread Starter
    And of course, thank you so much for your links.
    Salu2 a to2
    Bizio
    FISAT Life Member & NRA Life Member

  8. #6
    Legacy Member Bizio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Last On
    03-04-2024 @ 01:00 PM
    Location
    Milan, Italy
    Age
    62
    Posts
    424
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    07:44 PM
    Thread Starter
    Here is the picture of the flag with the stamp "1942"

    Salu2 a to2
    Bizio
    FISAT Life Member & NRA Life Member

  9. #7
    Legacy Member Bizio's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Last On
    03-04-2024 @ 01:00 PM
    Location
    Milan, Italy
    Age
    62
    Posts
    424
    Local Date
    05-03-2024
    Local Time
    07:44 PM
    Thread Starter
    Some more pictures ...







    HILLBILLY-06,
    from the link you had posted of the FAQs page of Valley Forge Flag web site
    FAQ | Valley Forge Flag
    I was addressed to another site http://www.vexman.net/
    I sent an email to Dave Martucci and he answered me quickly :

    You paid a fair price for the flag regardless of what date it is. Having said that, it was common during the war years to stamp the date on it. My guess is that the flag is from 1942 and, further, given it's dimensions, was intended to cover the casket of a serviceman killed in action, which is probably why it was found in Europe. Thousands of such flags were sent over during the Allied invasion of Italyicon and many of them were never used or accounted for.
    From what I can see in the photos, it is wool bunting with cotton stars and a cotton canvas heading with brass grommets. Typical construction for the Valley Forge Flag Company during the 1940s.
    Thank you again for your help and time.
    Salu2 a to2
    Bizio
    FISAT Life Member & NRA Life Member

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. FLAG curiosity??
    By DaveN in forum Vintage Military Gear
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 12-12-2011, 02:41 PM
  2. Rosenthal Iwo flag pic
    By imarangemaster in forum M1/M2 Carbine
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-07-2010, 01:46 PM
  3. Speaking of W's in stars
    By limpetmine in forum The Lee Enfield Knowledge Library Collectors Forum
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-15-2009, 09:30 AM
  4. Japanese flag translated
    By A. F Medic in forum Japanese Rifles
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-08-2009, 06:50 PM
  5. OT- Donate U.S. Flag
    By JimL in forum M1 Garand/M14/M1A Rifles
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-06-2009, 08:10 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts