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    Correct "T" sniper rifle?

    I got a call from a friend recently who said he had just taken an Enfield sniper rifle , sans scope, into his shop. Today I drove to over there to take a gander at it and take pics. We went on line to get some information on these things and this one seems to exhibit the proper attributes. That being said everything we read said that there are alot of humped up pieces floating around cobbled together out of real parts & pieces. All serial #'s are matching and the bore is in nice shape. There's some rust on the metal but there's also quite a bit of dried , crusty cosmolineicon as well. The mag that came with the rifle isn't serialized to it. Based on the poor quality pics is this a correct sniper? My friend would like to get $1k for it. Is this a reasonable price? Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.

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    It's fine, IMHO. M47C = BSA Shirley manufacture (by far the most common supplier of rifles to be converted to snipers). S51 = factory code for Holland & Holland of London, who effected the sniper conversion. The number stamped into the butt just behind the bolt is the serial number of the scope it was issued with, & speaking from memory it was an early Kershaw Mk3 scope.
    The S & TR look ok. A 'G' prefix serial is correct for a 1944 mfr rifle. The body pads do not look to have been butchered or recently fitted. There is, as you say, a little light rust here & there, but this looks to be minor & because the rifle has been stored in less than ideal conditions. The rear sight leaf can't be seen in the photo's but the cursor is SM marked (Singer manufacturing Co.) which is typical. The mag not being serialed to the rifle is of no real concern.

    What's the bore like?

    Can't really make any valid comments on the hoped for price as you are (I presume) in the US & I am in the UKicon, but no doubt there are plenty of others who may be able to chip in on this point.

    Hope this helps.

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    It's fine, IMHO. M47C = BSA Shirley manufacture (by far the most common supplier of rifles to be converted to snipers). S51 = factory code for Holland & Holland of London, who effected the sniper conversion. The number stamped into the butt just behind the bolt is the serial number of the scope it was issued with, & speaking from memory it was an early Kershaw Mk3 scope.
    The S & TR look ok. A 'G' prefix serial is correct for a 1944 mfr rifle. The body pads do not look to have been butchered or recently fitted. There is, as you say, a little light rust here & there, but this looks to be minor & because the rifle has been stored in less than ideal conditions. The rear sight leaf can't be seen in the photo's but the cursor is SM marked (Singer manufacturing Co.) which is typical. The mag not being serialed to the rifle is of no real concern.

    What's the bore like?

    Can't really make any valid comments on the hoped for price as you are (I presume) in the US & I am in the UKicon, but no doubt there are plenty of others who may be able to chip in on this point.

    Hope this helps.

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    Thanks for your comments. The bore is in excellent shape.

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    Looks legit. The front pad screws have been replaced as the staking is off however it's a represetative piece. Where are you located? It will determine the value. ron

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    No trace of Mk3 telescope 17277 in my records either

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    At $1000, I'll buy it if you don't!

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    Where are you located? It will determine the value. ron
    Hi Ron,
    I'm in Florida , USAicon.

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    $1000 Low - $1500 High. You should get some where in that range. Great looking No4T and if bore is excellent then you have a winner. Ron

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    I think you'd get $1k for it any day of the week. Snap a Roger Payneicon 'repro' mount and a refurb no32 and off you go.

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    Front pad screws look like they have been removed and then replaced, rather than replaced with other screws. Slots look like they have been peened down where the edges were damaged.

    They've been damaged on the way out as well as the way in.
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