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    Removing filth is one thing. Sanding it down and removing WOOD is another. Just making sure you understand that we are making a distinction. I'm all for stripping years if grime off of a gun. But once you take sandpaper to it you strip off the natural aged patina off the wood. Nothing can replace that except another 60 plus years of use. That's all we're trying to say. I've known lots of guys who have kicked themselves for doing what you are about to do.

    Like I said before, if you want that brand new from the factory look, why not get a reproduction stock set? This way if you ever plan to sell the rifle you can put the old stock back on and get your money out of it.

    Don't take offense. The guys on here (myself included) collect these for the history as much as for shooting. "Restoring" a gun destroys the historical value. At that point it's just a shooter and it's historical integrity is gone. Sure, it's still an Enfield. But you will essentially be erasing any story that gun could tell through it's battle marks and patina. It's something we're pretty passionate about as you can tell!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhetzer View Post
    Removing filth is one thing. Sanding it down and removing WOOD is another. Just making sure you understand that we are making a distinction. I'm all for stripping years if grime off of a gun. But once you take sandpaper to it you strip off the natural aged patina off the wood. Nothing can replace that except another 60 plus years of use. That's all we're trying to say. I've known lots of guys who have kicked themselves for doing what you are about to do.

    Like I said before, if you want that brand new from the factory look, why not get a reproduction stock set? This way if you ever plan to sell the rifle you can put the old stock back on and get your money out of it.

    Don't take offense. The guys on here (myself included) collect these for the history as much as for shooting. "Restoring" a gun destroys the historical value. At that point it's just a shooter and it's historical integrity is gone. Sure, it's still an Enfield. But you will essentially be erasing any story that gun could tell through it's battle marks and patina. It's something we're pretty passionate about as you can tell!
    what he said

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    BTW I think itlooks great the way it is

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    nhetzer,

    You don't have to keep repeating what not to do. I got it the first time. What I am looking for is some useful information on what to do. You recommended the Midway USAicon cleaning method (used on an old rolling block). It looks like it might work,, maybe a little more than this #5 needs. It's hard for me to tell. Have you used the method? Can you show me some pictures of a gun you have used it on?

    I understand you're passionate,,, trust me, I want to keep the patina. But the dirt and strong chicken coop smell has to go. If you can help me with that, I would greatly appreciate it.

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    I didn't mean to beat that to death. I was just trying to help you understand where we all are coming from and that nobody was personally attacking you. It's your gun at the end if the day, do what you wish.
    I have not tried that specific method on the Midway website but I have had good results with lots of the other tutorials so I feel like they put out solid information. I've used Krud Cutter before, like the guys in the video you posted, though I didn't go through the whole production. I've used hardwood floor cleaner, hot water, gun cleaner, all sorts of things.

    Every gun is a little different and I'm still searching for that "perfect all around method". Everything I've tried has worked to some degree, some better than others. It seems like every guy has their own thing. A lot of guys swear by "Ed's Red" but I've never mixed it up. The recipe is all over the web. At the end of the day, I'd start off with something mild like a wood cleaner and see if you like the results. If not, move into the heavier duty stuff. Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsimmons View Post
    There is also a way of doing it without destroying the rack number(it's part of the history of the gun). You can try a scrub of 50/50 linseed oilicon and turpentine and oooo steel wool. I'm sure I saw threads on the way to do it.
    Works very well in my limited experience.

    PS : Is there a problem with posting of links to Youtube or is it just me?

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    Are you using the insert video button to post the url?

    I tried the Midway USAicon lacquer thinner and 0000 steel wool on one the drill rifles today. It did clean the grime away,,, but I am thinking it's a bit too harsh for the #5.

    I will test the linseed oilicon and turpentine next.

    One of the drill rifles still has its brass disk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    Works very well in my limited experience.

    PS : Is there a problem with posting of links to Youtube or is it just me?
    I tested this issue on my MacBook Pro running Mountain Lion OSX with FireFox 19.0, Safari 6.0.2 and Google Chrome 25.0. I also tested it on Windows 7 running Google Chrome. Videos are appearing and running fine.

    There may be an issue for some members like HOOKED ON HISTORY who are running Windows 7 and some version of IE (Microsoft Internet Explorer) which I'm looking into. If you are having problems with that combination, could your try Google Chrome and let me know if it fixes any anomalies you are experiencing. It's a better (and safer) browser anyway.

    You should see videos that play in-line with each post as shown here:

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    Does anyone else see a blank white video image like this?

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    I don't want to mess up the original focus of this thread, so if anyone has feedback, could you please email it to me at badger@milsurps.com instead of posting here.

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