De Lisle carbine

[Beerhunter]

Just a question to Beerhunter and other section 7(1) 7(3) owners I always under the impression any age related pistol could be held on a section 7(1) ?? regardless of the availability of ammo as long as you dint have it in the house (the ammo) or is post 24 based on the De-Lisle ??

The simple answer to your question is no.

A section 7(1) MUST have been made (the actual pistol or revolver) before 1919. This is hard-coded into the Act and there are no powers to vary it. Additionally, it MUST be of a calibre for which ammunition is not "readily available in the UK". The latter is based on a list of calibres published by the Secrtratery of state and includes: .45ACP, 9mm Para, .38 S&W, .38 Spec., etc.

There is a guy on another forum who has what he believes is a 1970s Hi Power (Its actually 1950s). I could never get my head around how he got it on 7.3 when its old, not rare or unique. I still don't understand it!

Simples! A Section 7(3) pistol or revolver does not have the hard-coded dateline of Section 7(1) and so it can be quite modern in some cases AS LONG AS it is of HISTORIC INTEREST. For example, a friend of mine has a SIG self-loading pistol of 1970s vintage on Section 7(3) because it was one of the trials pistols bought for British forces.

Historic interest justification for 7(3) can also be "as part of a collection", for example I am also allowed a High-Power because it is part of my Great War and Second World War collection of firearms and equipment. Another collector without my "theme" justification would not be allowed the SAME pistol on 7(3).

[enfield 111]

I have just come across a complete set of engineering drawings of the De Lisle carbine.
They are marked "Sterling Engineering Co Ltd" and dated July 1944.
The set consists of 50 plus drawings detailing every part of the De Lisle.

They come with a letter dated 1984 signed by the Managing Director of Sterling.

Are these drawings uncommon or are there loads of sets out there?

Do you still have these drawing available? if so are they for sale?

Thanks

Pete