No1 Mk3 mills bomb cup launcher??

[rayg]

Made some grenade cartridges with a combination of Unique and black powder and used a cardboard disk to cover the neck opening and sealed with a dab of paint. New tennis balls that are still fuzzy fit tight but used worn smooth ones need to have duck tape wrapped around them to seal them better. All balls need duck tape placed on the bottom of the ball facing the muzzle to prevent a hole being blown in the ball.
It was fun and the ball only went a little over a hundred yds because it's too light and could be caught by a guy down range. If interested I can try to find the powder charge I used. Ray

[WarPig1976]

Thanks Ray, yes that would be great. I think it was your old post I read where you finally had success with 2400/BP. Why a compound charge and not just straight BP?

[rayg]

You're right it was 2400 powder, I recall now. I had read some where that the original load was a combination of smokeless and black powder that's why I used the powders. I'll try to find the load I used as I worked it up and it seemed to shoot the ball furthest, Ray

[rayg]

Ok, I found the thread on making the cartridges on Gunboards, here it is. Ray
Need help in making grenade launching cartridges?

[WarPig1976]

Roger that, thanks for the info...

[Mk VII]

An opinion received by the HBSA from the Home Office in 2000:-

Queries have been received about the legal status of grenade launcher attachments, one to a K98 Mauser rifle owned by a Second World War re-enactor and the other acquired by a museum and then seized by H.M. Customs. These are cup-like devices that attach to the barrel of the rifle so that a grenade can be launched from the rifle by the power of a blank round.

Grenade launchers would be subject to section 5(1A)(c) of the Firearms Act 1968 (as amended) as a launcher designed for firing an unstabilised exploding missile. While the launcher attachment itself would be a (section 1) component part, when it is attached to the rifle it would become a prohibited weapon.

It is unlikely that any grenades can be found for this launcher and the risk to public safety is minimal.

We suggest that the owner of a grenade launcher may wish to get it de-activated; there is a Home Office standard for rocket launchers, mortars etc, and the work needed on an attachment of this type would be very limited. This is what we have advised the police to suggest to the two owners of these, and there is no suggestion that anyone is going to be prosecuted.

We would not be surprised if these items are regarded by some collectors and dealers as accessories, however, they are unusual items and this cannot be a common problem.

This is a précis of a fax received by our Secretary on 18/2/00 from the Home Office

And who exactly said that they were Sect 5 items pray tell Mk7? Where are they EVER described in ANY official document as anything other than a cup discharger?

[WarPig1976]

This thread was started to ask about attaching & using the launcher NOT to argue about nonsensical firearms laws.
As I have no idea what section 5 is nor want anything to do with it, can we keep it to use please.

[Peter Laidler]

Steady on Warpig......... This is a forum and because YOU didn't want this info doesn't mean that nobody else does or indeed might be interested in reading about it. That is the VERY nature of a forum......yes? Reading back, I would venture to suggest that reloading cartridges to fire tennis balls isn't part of what you originally asked either except in a very convoluted or roundabout way. But it came on board and you're grateful. Yes again? Lets keep the forum a forum I say

Anyone else agree or disagree on this point

[WarPig1976]

With all do respect Peter, I would argue its political. Would it be appropriate for me to give my opinion on U.K firearms laws? I would say no... Why? Because it would lead to politics.
What if the U.S had laws that said you could own an MG car but it could have no engine and only be painted pink? I think you'd have something to say no? If we were a automobile forum that had rules against politics where would that put you?... And me for that matter.
That was my thinking, I in no way wish to offend nor muzzle anyone if we're going to talk about let's talk about it.
Perhaps MK VII can start a thread.

Respectfully.... Jeff

[bigduke6]

I dont find the answer to Peters question political at all, its just an answer that Mk V11 has kindly posted, in fact its news to me and an eye opener, there are not many threads on this forum that stay on topic for long, bit like being in a pub shouting over each other and the conversation soon changes, the benifit of the forum is your not racing to get a gallon of ale down you before last orders, and dont suffer from memory loss after 5 pints and trying to remember someones name etc...