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    Unusual Pattern 37 pack ID help

    I came across this pack I believe to be pattern 37 manufacture date 1945. Spent quite a while trying to find information on it with no luck at all. Appears to be used to carry perhaps a loose bulk somthing that could be ditched quickley by the look of the attachments.
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    Its not the ration carrier as it has a flap and a partition or for a radio as they ahve a flap so it can be used while worn.

    Its possible it could be for carrying a heavy weapon component such as the Vickers tripod, or 3 inch mortar?

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    Try karkeeweb.com. They specialise in Britishicon and Commonwealth webbing. If you email them they will answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsimmons View Post
    Try karkeeweb.com. They specialise in Britishicon and Commonwealth webbing. If you email them they will answer.
    I e-mailed some photos to them last night. That is a great site for anyone interested in British web gear.
    Was a bit surprised not to find an answer there. The sight is rather exaustive in its coverage of web gear.
    Perhaps I stumbled upon somthing rare.

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    I don't think it's rare per say, it's just not the common webbing we usually see.
    There was a series of books written by the owners of the now defunct website castle keep, which showed this pack(my books are in storage 675 miles away). Sorry I can't remember the name of the book or pack.

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    Reply from karkeeweb.com.

    The cross-section is indeterminate...? If of "D" section, with large studs ("feet") on the (closed off) base, this is a Carrier for a large cylindrical hot food container.


    If it's of rectangular cross section, it's an Airborne item, A4/AD 0150 Carriers, ammunition, Vickers, M.M.G., Type A which was designed to carry one 250 rd belt box. The size of the envelope suggests the latter, in the which case the base is open, closed off by 2 inch strapping, to stop the box falling through! Interesting that it's 1945 dated, but still w/o a Stores Code.


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    It has three brass feet so I suppose it was for a hot food container. Not as intresting as the alternitive but I am sure the troops appreciated it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOOKED ON HISTORY View Post
    I am sure the troops appreciated it.
    Yes my brother...hot grub was always appreciated in the field...
    Regards, Jim

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    Perhaps as much as ammo depending upon the proximity of the enemy?

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    Providing the enemy isn't actually upon you, the hot grub is premier. There's usually more ammo that hot food.
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    I just can't see what food container would fit into it. Certainly nothing that I have come across and I used '37 patt webbing in the early to mid 60's although to be fair, tyhis was just the basic stuff. The pack certainly looks partially insulated where it contacts your back but the pack seems too shallow to take what we currently call a 'Norweigan' - even a smaller 'pudding Norweigan'.

    Hot food.......... I came too in hospital after an emergency op on my knee after being dragged along when a parachute wouldn't deflate. The bloke from the Devon and Dorsets (known as the Devon and Doughnuts) in the bed next to me was recovering from severe burns to his legs and 2 bullet woulnd from a .45. His Land Rover had been taking dixies of hot food out to a RV point and had come under IRA ambush fire. Hit him and the driver and turned the L-R over. The dixies split open scalding the blokes badly

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