Chargers (Clips) for Pattern 14

[ArtPahl]

What's the proper way to insert .303 cartridges into P14 clips? How are the rims supposed to be staggered?

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[gsimmons]

like this _-_-_

[ArtPahl]

Thanks. That's cute. I just found my clips and I knew how to load them at one time but my memory is what I use to forget with.

[Seaspriter]

like this _-_-_

Help me with this mates. I've read and seen this staggering pattern, but when I've tried it, a number of times the "second to next rim" was forward of the "first/top/next to be charged rim," causing a jam when the bolt is rammed home as the top cartridge tries to take the one below it along.

I've had no problem when hand loading without the charger clips, or, when using the charger clip to be sure the topmost rim is forward of the cartridge below it.

I must be overlooking something or doing something wrong. Please enlighten me!

[browningautorifle]

I must be overlooking something

No, just keep practicing and don't work at it so hard. Get your drill rds in good shape and get to work. It'll come together with enough practice...

[terry]

first one against the charger,- sec. one ahead-, third one behind the sec. one,- fourth one ahead of the third,- fifth one against the charger behind the fourth one . hope that helps thats how i load my chargers.

---------- Post added at 08:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:49 PM ----------

you do not have to stagger the cartridges on the p-14 as the magazine only holds 5 rounds. the staggering is when you load 10 rounds into a mag on a british made rifle #1 mk3 or a #4 mk1 etc. i stagger on my #1 mk3 and do not stagger on my p-14

[CINDERS]

When you push the last of the cartridges charger in (Mk III & No.'s 4 & 5's) for the 10 rounds a little trick is as you feel the last round leave the charger and start to enter the mag whilst it is still sitting on the 9th round ever so slightly move your thumb forward a smidge whilst maintaining pressure on the 10th cartridge and push into the mag it takes a bit of practice but you will get the feel by having a dummy set up of 2 clips and just practice it surely stops rim overs which costs valuable time to sort out in a speed shoot never ever have I had it happen to me Ho Ho.... it would have cost a few lives in the heat of battle no doubt.

Another thing is do not waste time flicking the 2nd empty charger clip out with your fingers just close the bolt rather rapidly and it will knock it out of the way, I have also seen rounds staggered in the clips thus ///// and not _-_-_ they did not seem to have any feeding issues.

Good news is our range may be cleared as FFU at the end of April after some 16-18 months closure so can start slinging lead again in earnest after a forced layoff......

[Seaspriter]

as you feel the last round leave the charger and start to enter the mag whilst it is still sitting on the 9th round ever so slightly move your thumb forward a smidge whilst maintaining pressure on the 10th cartridge and push into the mag it takes a bit of practice but you will get the feel

Thanks Cinders, had not realized this little movement could make such a difference. Right on.

I have also seen rounds staggered in the clips thus ///// and not _-_-_

Actually this is what I did to cure the feed jam problem and it worked perfectly, despite being non-spec. (A little variance from Standard Operating Procedure )
Thanks for the tips.