"Just When Ypou Thought It Safe To Go Back In The Water...."

[Peter Laidler]

It's those sorts of comments that in a roundabout way got me to come on this forum or should I say it, the Jouster forum initially. Brian at BDL asked me to comment on a piece of pure horse manure relating to a No4T. I did and saw a few others that were of very doubtful accuracy too - like bending the triogger guard 'a bit' to set the pull-off up correctly. Strange........ not only was this wrong but he was also talking about a Mk2 rifle too!!!!!

So here I am, together with the rest of the flock. I was always taught that it's all a question of how diplomatically you explain something to them or how UNtactfully you TELL them

[ikesdad]

I saw that discussion over at the other forum too. And that guy is a mod there ?
Seen too much bogus crap over there and I gave up on that place.

[CINDERS]

Being a MOD ain't worth squat if you do not have a clue what your talking about and just feeding people with misinformation that may cause them grief, this place is the go to site for all not only for milsurps but just about everything you may want to know about gear, fakery's and so on, it is well run and helpful, those that come here to bullsh*t bignoting with belittling comments are shown the door real smartly by the MODS here.......

[Surpmil]

Hush-Hush Link

[boltaction]

Is this the point at which someone looks at the stock bolt photos, scratches their head and says, "I didn't think you could put a square peg in a round hole!"

Ed

[RobD]

Can I ask whether there is any likelihood of a stock bolt coming undone, in reality; and whether the square end engaging with the forestock is actually needed? I note that on many Martinis and the long Lees I have had, the only cause of a loose buttstock seems to havE been shrinkage of the wood over the years - the bolts are as tigt as ever. I wonder if the square bolt tip was a bit over-engineered, and if it was, is there any harm in grinding it off so as to avoid someone splitting the wood in the years ahead?
Rob

[Peter Laidler]

Ask your self this question Rob, and you'll find the answer. The No4 stockbolt is tightened up in the body against the butt, a steel washer and sandwiched between the bolt and washer a double coil thackray shakeproof washer. Done up using an Armourers brace and a bit. Have you ever heard of one coming loose? Nope, nor have I. And when we were refurbishing old No1's that's what we used too. Mind you, we didn't place too much emphasis on 'factory authenticity' but more on '....this basxxxx won't come loose now.....'

[Roger Payne]

Indeed the later Ishapore SMLE forends adopted the No4 style tie plate at the back end & did away with the earlier keeper plate. They also used a No4 type stock bolt.

[Alan de Enfield]

And the latest offering from he same 'society' is concerning a quick and easy fix for repairing those annoying 'chips' taken out of the rails on a No4 Mk1* (you know - the damage that lets the bolt head jump out)


There's a simple temporary fix for this problem. It amounts to cutting and bending a piece of thin sheet metal, originally they used pieces cut from a coffee can or tobacco can, to bridge the gap. The bottom of the piece was bent to fit the bottom of the action body and was held in place by the fore end when screwed down tight.
I have an old sportered No.4 MkI* that occasionally binds though it can only jump the track if dry cycling on an empty magazine.
I'm considering making a more permanent fix using a piece of spring steel feeler gauge. If I do this I'll mount it with a screw on the lower flat of the action body and inlet the fore end to allow it to be pushed aside when removing the bolt for cleaning.

[Richard Hare]

Fertile minds, Alan. fertilized with what, I'm not sure....