'44 Winchester

[deldriver]

Frank, it looks like the front sight has some letters on top perhaps. If that happens to be true, then it's been changed out. Again, it does not matter given what you paid for it.

[imntxs554]

What type of Front Sight is it anyway. I will look for my LED light and see what I can see ? Thanks

[INLAND44]

I think the second serial number needs more explaining. The adjustable sight overhang covered up serial numbers on some carbines, so it was approved that they could also stamp them on the front of the sight bridge. It didn't take long for the manufacturers to adjust their stamping to move the maker ID and SN farther back so they no longer had to double-stamp. I find it very interesting because the double stamp is fairly rare. I do not believe it adversely affects the value. That's a nice Winchester!

[imntxs554]

Thanks Inland44....I been sending out pictures to some collectors and a few more people that I know that own several of these and do know it was because the placement of the Sight covered the S/N. Why would they do that to this one when you can Clearly see it with the Rear Sight it has on it. It tells me this Sight came on this Carbine, but what kept them still marking the front side when they made the adjustments to show the S/N with the original milled or stamped Sight and then new placement of S/N for it to be seen. Who knows....I wish I did.


Frank

[BrianQ]

It didn't take long for the manufacturers to adjust their stamping to move the maker ID and SN farther back so they no longer had to double-stamp.

The carbine manufacturers didn't stamp serial numbers in front of the rear sight. That was done during rebuilds.

[imntxs554]

Brian....Where would you look for a rebuild Mark. There's nothing on this Carbine that shows it went through a rebuild. Not even a Import stamp anywhere. I've searched every area closely for anything to grind or sand marks to black oxide to reblue to cover anything. If this is what your not talking about then I'm sorry. I'm just trying to understand. Thank You

Frank

[carwashchris]

Yes frank to Deldriver's point on the front sight, it looks like a 7 or a 2 or maybe a z to the right of the blade ?? Also in one of your pictures looking straight down at the front of the receiver and to the right, I think I see the heads of brass pins. If so this could confirm a re-arsenal

Everything a side you got a great gun at a steal.

[BrianQ]

The serial number in front of the rear sight shows it went through a U.S. rebuild facility. The type 3 band is also an indication the carbine is not as it left the manufacturer's facility, as is the non WRA front sight, the White Sewing hammer, and the J.A.O. flip safety. The safety depicted in the first picture of the third row is a repro.

[imntxs554]

I put that Flip Safety on. The push one it had was too tight to push side to side. I took the Spring out of the Iver Johnson and put that Spring in back with the Push Safety, it's in the pictures. The Stock that's in the picture is a Inland Stock, but I didn't put it in the Winchester one he gave me until I found the Winchester Handguard which I did and now it's all Winchester.

[F4Rio]

Last Serial Number Applied Each Day At Winchester from Winchester Log Book:
26 Mar 1944: 5,652,677
28 Mar 1944: 5,653,633
30 Mar 1944: 5,654,690