Oh Cr*p

[CINDERS]

Think I already know the answer to what I am asking see the pics of my T's throat & Brl the case neck portion of the chamber is on the Rt my guess is the brl is shagged. I cannot remember if it is the original brl 1944 may have a look later on
I have gone through scrubbed the bore, there is a fair amount of carbon all along the lands (used copper brush, one shot & Iosso paste) still got a ways to go yet...............!!!
I am sorta over this thing as it has been a constant pain in the rectum given it cost a friendship (Told it was schmicko rifle) it was not right when I got it as the draws were bashed to hell and the whole receiver rocked in the fore stock. (since rectified at a fair cost)

And now it appears the throat is cactus-dilecti and the brl, I have a reasonable selection of barrels but finding a gunny who can do the job correctly is the issue. I was thinking of Beaton fire arms in Perth as Doug Barnes is not longer taking on any work due to ill health. Any West Au members had T work done at Beatons. If it was a bog standard No.4 I have a gunny here that can do the job but T's are somewhat different. TIA

Pics 1&2 carbon, 3&4 throat just past neck chamber, 5 fire cracking

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[Lee Enfield]

What does it shoot like?

All barrels will look like that eventually, I wouldn't worry about it until it stops shooting acceptably.

[mike1967]

One of the reasons i won't have a borescope. If it shoots fine, and looks ok i don't want to know what it looks like under a microscope.

[Peter Laidler]

Luckily new barrels are now readily available. But the acid test is how accurate is it?

[CINDERS]

Since I had the draws done a friend shot it and clover leafed at 100m with 3 rounds the only 3 he fired my group was a bit wider, guess you guys are right it was probably obturating better with all that stuff up there than a whistle clean bore its just the F class shooter coming out in me. These things were meant to be run pretty hard. Yes Peter I have looked at the Armalons and am leaning towards one for future hedging but I must say the people who can work on these rifles correctly are getting thin on the ground.

Thanks allot chaps I really appreciate the feed back once I get my bank up a bit will look at the Armalon as a replacement barrel for my T it is getting to the stage now trying to keep these rifles 80-100% original is getting as hard as Boron and that scratched diamonds!
Well I am off to get my dads medals from the safe ready for the dawn service tomorrow as we remember those that fell on that fateful day and all the others in conflicts that followed.
We will remember them...........

[muffett.2008]

You worry too much Cinders, that throat erosion is pretty normal for these old clunkers when fed corrosive ammo.
If it is still pumping boattails ok, it's still good, after that you can go back to Milsurps until it finally gives up the ghost.........maybe in your grandkids time.

[CINDERS]

Thanks Muffet have not heard that phrase in a long time, coined phrase used by Aussies to describe an older model battered car that has defied everything to kill it and still runs you can hear them coming for miles on a cold still night in the wheatbelt.

[Richard Hare]

Cinders,

Like the others have said, if it still shoots don't worry.
Just hold it up to the light to check the barrel in future. :-)

I remember in Major Barlow's book, "The elements of rifle shooting" that he used to run a gauge through his barrel after every shoot, to see if it had picked up any nickel.
Spent countless hours scrubbing to get bits out, only to have it nickel to some degree next time.
In the end he gave up.
His (sound) theory being, "if it shoots well, so what?" ...........plenty of time to worry when it won't shoot anymore.
I'm sure you get my point. :-)

[Peter Laidler]

In one of our big Instrument workshops we used to have an electro-mechanical thing called a loroscope or lorograph. We would put newly repaired army wristwatches into the jaws, switch it on and it'd give a readout as to the accuracy in each position and overall plus this that and the other. And another paper readout consisting of a load of dots and dashes and other stuff that looked like Egyptian cave drawings or hieroglyphics to me. In short, it told us what was wrong with the wristwatches that you'd spent hours stripping, cleaning, oiling and re-setting up. What it didn't tell you was how good it was. We would test run them, fully wound overnight and in the morning, the Omegas, Vertex's, Records, Longines, Eternas and Timor's would still be ticking away keeping perfect time. But the lorograph machine was like the bore camera. Just tells you what's wrong. Not what's right

[Brian Dick]

If it's shooting 1 moa at 100 meters; considering MoD spec was 3 moa at 100 yards, I'd challenge you to wear it out in a lifetime of normal use.