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    Thanks folks for all the advice.

    The mount wasn't what I was after, it was the tin. I reckoned I could sell the scope, repro mount and tool and get a cheap tin - even if that was a repro. However, I was naïve with regards to the scope. Until I carefully compared it side by side with my own one (and vintage hunter's pics), I was happy enough with it. It will be heading back for a refund - one benefit of buying from a dealer with a 28 day return policy.

    Looks like I'll be off to Fleabay or that Frenchicon site for a repro tin at market price

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    There is a slight up side to the fakes market if I might dare be the devils advocate. I was at a gun show in the UKicon several years ago and saw a tray full of oily bracket cradle cap screws and bracket thumbscrews. The prices being asked for a single thumbscrew and cradle cap screw was horrendous. Even MORE so to me, who'd seen a zillion in his life before. I asked '.....is that for a full bracket set......?' (meaning 2x thumb screws and 8x cradle cap screws). No he replied, that's EACH ......, these are original.

    Within a year these little items were being mass produced on capstan lathes in small machine shops. Effectively leaving the greedy ba........, er....., person with a load of unsaleable stock. Or certainly unsaleable until he gets into the real world.

    I could cite another even better example but...........

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    I feel sad for the duped people and agree with sentry duty and BAR it wont take 50 years it will be more like 15 and we will see the stuff coming o/seas like from India with some of our hard to get Aus WWI military badges faked and patina'ed nicely even the MkIII compasses even though you can pick them easily now it wont be long.

    I am into my collecting as weird and eclectic as it is do it to protect what little is left before the b*rstards completely homogenize the market with fake after fake until we will not really know whats what unless some on gets together to write a book on the fakes. I got caught with a set of 25th LH collars (to match my real 25th LH hat badge) yep as fake as a piece of cheddar cheese on a mouse trap.
    What to do I cannot say except to thank the sterling work this site does to help people who collect military kit in spotting the fakes and discovering a sleeper which we all hope to do one day.......sadly no refund for me dang it.

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    I was going to ask members advice on this very item as I was wondering what would be a fair price assuming that it is a genuine scope and mount. Normally/often, W.W. Arms will include the word Pattern in the description if the item that they are selling is a reproduction item. A simple way to find out about this particular product would be to e-mail them and ask, unambiguously, if the scope, mount and case are original or reproduction items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldD View Post
    Thanks folks for all the advice.

    The mount wasn't what I was after, it was the tin. I reckoned I could sell the scope, repro mount and tool and get a cheap tin - even if that was a repro. However, I was naïve with regards to the scope. Until I carefully compared it side by side with my own one (and vintage hunter's pics), I was happy enough with it. It will be heading back for a refund - one benefit of buying from a dealer with a 28 day return policy.

    Looks like I'll be off to Fleabay or that Frenchicon site for a repro tin at market price

    Donald
    Distance Selling Legislation applies so make sure you get all your postage costs refunded as well as the purchase price of the scope. This includes postage costs of the item to you from the seller World Wide Arms and your costs to send back to them.

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    Come on chaps................. Surely the price would tell you that it wasn't all the real McCoy...... No, it just SHOUTS that it ain't. It might be overpriced for a fake, but that's not the same as being ripped off for being underpriced is it?

    Added as an afterthought. The Mk3 compasses that Cinders mentioned won't fool anyone, believe me. Put it this way....... You wouldn't want to trek across the Kalahari desert with one unless your idea of magnetic North differs from the accepted direction of........er..... North!!

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    Donald, before you look at ebay and the Frenchicon website, when I get some funds together will be importing a few more tins in the near future, so will be available and for a very reasonable price.

    These will be also sprayed once they arrive in Deep Bronze green, I,ll post a pic when I get back home of an original tin and the repro one (in deep bronze green)

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    I did mention that Peter about how poorly made they were the MkIII compasses they are so shoddy a blind person could pick them but just give them time and you will be hard pressed to pick them.

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    Peter, could you please give us a ball park figure of the sort of money we should expect to pay for an original No32 scope, mount and case in good condition? Having never attempted to purchase an example myself I have no idea what I should expect to pay for a good used example. I am prepared to hold my hand up as some-one who has been fooled by the fake MK3 compass which Cinders mentions although my example is one of the better fakes and it did take me a while before I realised that I had been conned. This compass was picked up at a local aution house so there was no come back on the seller.

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    An original 32 scope sold in a local auction for £500 (hammer price ) it was complete but was like looking through a milk bottle, in need of a full rebuild...
    It later was re sold on eBay and went for north of £700 with ( as far as I could see) with no work done

    But a couple of years ago I got a full set of eBay scope , tin ,and mount all original for £400

    A real case of how long is a piece of string ( and how long do you want it)

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