RFI No. 4 T rifle?

[Promo]

Hello Guys,

picked up my second RFI marked No. 4 T rifle this weekend. They both are within 100 digits to each other and also both have a "A 0xx T" (would the T suffix mean sniper?) serial number and date 1962. Does anyone know whether the Indians used original No. 4 actions where they scrubbed the markings, or did they manufacture them newly? And any other information on the history of those rifles, what were they used for, when did they sell over to Europe?

Thanks,

Georg

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[Ridolpho]

Promo: All original English or North American rifles (or parts of them). My impression from past threads on this forum is that the Indian T's were originally English or, perhaps, Longbranch T's. Your has the usual D6E Enfield examiners mark (at H & H) on the rear left of the body and so was an original "T". I'd love to have a chance to buy one of these Indian rifles, especially in this kind of condition.

Ridolpho

[Seaforth72]

I have some info on A0075, A0250 and A0295. This one A0157 falls in the middle. I also have an ex-India sniper, a No. 4 MK. I* (T) made by Long Branch. Luckily it retained its original serial number 68L32xx on both body and bolt. The markings on the left side of the body are faint due to sandblasting (in Indian service presumably) but legible. Sadly mine came with mismatched scope and bracket.

[Peter Laidler]

Strangely, Promos rifle is marked as a No4 Mk1/2 but impossibly has a Mk1 fore-end that will not (?) fit without modifications to the rear!
There are a whole lot of ex Indian Army No4T's with telescopes in and around this serial number batch including a VERY close older brother owned by someone on this forum
If this bracket is correct then the original rifle number is still visible. But I doubt whether it is the original bracket as it left H&H........

[Promo]

Ridolopho, thanks for the information on the manufacturer! I might somewhen part with either of my two rifles, but I had not exported rifles to Canada before (I'm located in Europe). My other Indian rifle is "A 0228 T". Aside of those two I also own a No. 4 T which has the Indian reinforcement-screw. Why did they not scrub the original markings from this rifle and added the "new ones"? Was this because the rifle was not updated to "Mk. 1/2" specifications?

[Ridolpho]

Promo: Already well beyond my limited knowledge but- as Mr. Laidler points out, the rifle in this post does not appear to be in Mk 1/2 configuration.

Ridolpho

[Peter Laidler]

They clearly DID scrub the original markings and then added their usual Mk1/2 markings. It MIGHT be a Mk1/2 underneath the wood somehow but you'll have to take it off to find out

[Brian Dick]

I'm restoring one for a customer "as we speak". Serial number 1173, also marked RFI 1962. It's in pretty good condition and converted from an original H&H "T".

[enfield303t]

I have a Indian T, BSA manufacture. Will have to dig it out of the safe to check the serial no. Mine is pretty clean, apparently used by the police thus not getting the normal beating if used by the army. I bought the gun, not the story.

[Promo]

They clearly DID scrub the original markings and then added their usual Mk1/2 markings. It MIGHT be a Mk1/2 underneath the wood somehow but you'll have to take it off to find out

Hey Peter, being not that of an Enfield nut: how do I tell if it's a Mk.1 or a Mk.1/2? What was changed in this process?