Enfield No4 in .410 - any details??

[Enfield trader]

I was going to buy this but I didn't, maybe I should have due to it being somewhat odd.

So does anyone have details on the No4 converted to .410 ?

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[Thunderbox]

"HMP" stands for "His/Her Majesty's Prison", so what you have there is one of the few officially converted No4s that were used as prison guard rifles.

[Enfield trader]

for $250 ?

[sprog]

for $250 ?

I think so.

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

Heck, I would have had my checkbook out so fast I would have ripped my back pocket off to get at it.
I doubt if you will ever see another one!

"too soon ve gets old und too late ve gets schmart"

Oh by the way, if it's still there, and you don't want it, how about an address and phone number of the shop so I can buy it?

[Bruce]

I've only heard of No1s in 410 and they were converted in India. They never turned my crank. Why would a prison carry a single shot shotgun? I'm assuming it's single shot unless someone can tell me different. I can see that the mag well is filled in, so that's a good hint.

It doesn't appeal to me in the slightest.

I wouldn't mind knowing where I can find info on it though.

[Enfield trader]

It has been sold ....... Was buying another rifle and should have stopped and bought this ...... kicking myself now

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

It has been sold ....... Was buying another rifle and should have stopped and bought this ...... kicking myself now

What scares me is some clown is gonna "bubba" it

[John Sukey (Deceased)]

Bruce
1. You are not shooting at people who can shoot back.
2. It s a British thing

[Peter Laidler]

Looks to me like it's already been 'bubbad' John. Didn't the Indian .410 conversions have the wooden insert held in place with two cross dowels?

Thousands of these were converted in England to .410 shotgun during the 60's up to the 90's as you could have 'em with no form of licensing whatsoever. Then the magazines had to be................ I won't go on and on but eventually, as the laws tightened people just put a wood insert in place to use it as a feed platform.

Not TOOOOOO tightly I've been assured because you could pull it out and put the magazine back and still have a wall-hanger No4. I see that it's got HMP on it but is there any evidence that this originates from Her Majesty's Prisons. If so, where is WS.

Anecdotally, I heard of someone who had a Boys rifle smooth bored to whatever shotgun calibre .55" smooth is. And Mr Plod told him that he'd have to fill the mag housing with a piece of wood. He did, with a solid piece of wood shaped to the shape of a magazine. On his next visit, Mr Plod was outraged because it still looked too real and didn't apparently comply with the spirit of the new '2 rounds only' law. So Mr Plod told him that it'd have to be 'welded' in place!