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    Arisaka "AIR RELEASE RIFLE" that looks like a type 30 or 35????

    Two questions:
    1) Has anyone come across of a T30 or T35 Arisakaicon with the characters that translate to "Air Release Gun" and no Emperor's stamp?
    2) what were the markings on the so-called 02-45?

    I am in the market for a T30 or T35 Arisakaicon (or both).

    I recently came across a very nice looking but odd T30 or T35 Arisaka rifle at a very decent price, but I passed on it for the following reasons:
    1) stamped markings were the characters that translate to "Air Release Gun" and there was no Emperor stamp (it was not ground off, it just wasnt there);
    2) no other markings indicating Type. but it was a Tokyo Koshikawa factory stamp and serial number that I believe paced it as pre-WWI;
    3) The listing showed a tag labeling it as a Type 35, but the pics showed it had a Type 30 rear sight (typical of the so-called 02-45?);
    4) the mud cover grooves were not present (also typical of the so-called 02-45?)

    Everything else looked correct for the T30 (hooked safety, aforementioned rear sight, stock, etc.)

    Any thoughts? Should I regret not buying it? ...wait, dont tell me! ;-)
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    Interesting photos. Five different guns?

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    ??? Same gun!

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    Bolts and receivers don't match. Rear sights don't match.

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    The first four photos are of a T-30 rifle that was removed from military service and converted to a smooth bore training rifle.
    The original receiver T-30 markings and Chrysanthemum were removed and re-stamped with the characters on the receiver top that translate to "Blank Firing Gun".

    The fifth photo is not the same rifle. Hope this has been useful.

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    didnt notice that I included an M38 in the pics. That was the the cause of another mystery post also since solved in the Sovieticon Forum.
    As far as I can determine, according to "Military Rifles of Japanicon" the rifle was never stamped with a MUM, but was originally stamped with the three characters above. The barrel may never have been rifled either, but that is academic.
    MYSTERY SOLVED, thanks all!

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    With the quality of the rifles, and a larger serial number (above 3 digit), these were originally standard issue T-30 rifles with proper receiver stamps, including the Mum. The receivers were ground off and re-marked as shown when fully converted to training use.

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