1871/84

[mike webb]

I have an opportunity to aquire a Mauser 1871/84 in original condition.
(not cut off or the stock whittled away).
It is marked Danzig and the bore is excellent.
I have never seen one marked as such and was wondering are they more
scarce or have I just not seen many .43's.
I would appreciate any feedback on the subject as just about everyone on this forum know's more about Mausers than me.
Thanks

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[AKA Hugh Uno]

not particularly rare. I have owned four of them over the years. not difficult to reload and Lee makes 11mm/43 SPanish dies for 25 bucks. Workmanship is pretty impressive. Accuracy is OK and recoil is fairly stout. Price range for clean shootable rifles with nice bores is 350-1200+. Check out the seamless aluminum tube in the forend for the magazine. Oh yeah, the NRA book on assembly/disassembly is VERY helpful as there are some "tricks" to taking them apart and working the magazine cutoff.

[AKA Hugh Uno]

it may be an earlier SINGLE SHOT rifle/carbine. If so, I think the ammuntion isn't quite the same as in the 71/84.

[mike webb]

Thanks fot the input, I think I will grab it because guns in original condition
are getting harder to find especially ones with excellent bores.
Mike

[Patrick Chadwick]

The chambering is 11.15x46R. This is NOT the same as .43 Spanish.
But the proper die set from Lee has the same price. Which is an absolute bargain for such an antique caliber.

There is no difference in the chambering between an M71 and an M71/84.
As can be seen "Mauser Bolt Rifles" by Olson, the original cartridge for the M71 had a 386 gn paper-patched round-nose bullet. This was changed to a flat-nose for the M71/84, because the rounds were loaded nose-to-tail in the tubular magazine.

At 100 yards you will not notice any difference between the two, but at 300 and above the round-nose will have a slight ballistic edge.

The original cartridges had a 77 gn charge. For target shoooting I recommend a heavier bullet, approx. 450-470 gn. The longer bullet plus the grease cookie you will find you need under the bullet to be able to shoot long strings without cleaning reduces the powder capacity to 67-70 gn of Swiss No. 4 (1 1/2FG).

In good condition, these rifles can respectably compete with the 45-70 Trapdoors. The price range mentioned by Hugh Uno would be the same here in Mauserland, but in euros. Grab it.

Patrick

[dogtag]

My 71 puts all shots into a 6" black at 100 yds with the RCBS bullet 44-370-FN
In the Stewart Granger movie King Solomans Mines, Richard Carlson in the stampede scene uses a sportered 71/84

[steved409]

I purchased a 71/84 just a few years back when they were offered surplus at about $300 if I remember correctly. It's parkerized and has a new, polyureathaned stock on it---but, boy, is the bore GREAT and shiny.

[IanK]

Hi Patrick,

Don't you mean the chambering is 11.15 * 60R?

Ian

The chambering is 11.15x46R. This is NOT the same as .43 Spanish.
But the proper die set from Lee has the same price. Which is an absolute bargain for such an antique caliber.

There is no difference in the chambering between an M71 and an M71/84.
As can be seen "Mauser Bolt Rifles" by Olson, the original cartridge for the M71 had a 386 gn paper-patched round-nose bullet. This was changed to a flat-nose for the M71/84, because the rounds were loaded nose-to-tail in the tubular magazine.

At 100 yards you will not notice any difference between the two, but at 300 and above the round-nose will have a slight ballistic edge.

The original cartridges had a 77 gn charge. For target shoooting I recommend a heavier bullet, approx. 450-470 gn. The longer bullet plus the grease cookie you will find you need under the bullet to be able to shoot long strings without cleaning reduces the powder capacity to 67-70 gn of Swiss No. 4 (1 1/2FG).

In good condition, these rifles can respectably compete with the 45-70 Trapdoors. The price range mentioned by Hugh Uno would be the same here in Mauserland, but in euros. Grab it.

Patrick

[Patrick Chadwick]

Oops! You are so right! Just a wee typo there!

Patrick