1943 Savage

[bradtx]

Hi All, I've just partially disassembled this rifle for another thread. As it has the pattern style upper and lower barrel bands (real PIA to install) does anyone need any info while it's apart? It's 100% original so it may help someone. I'll leave it disassembled for a couple of days.

Brad

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[Brit plumber]

Actualy, now you mention it, I've a Savage No4 Mk1*. Its a bit of a mess, could you post photos of what I should check/replace on mine.

Cheers, Chris.

[madcratebuilder]

I recently acquired this 43 Savage. It appears to be all original with the exception of the safety. It has a Longbranch marked safety. I have been told that due to the close proximity of LB and Savage that they would supply each other with small parts when one ran low. Any comment on that?

[Badger]

I recently acquired this 43 Savage. It appears to be all original with the exception of the safety. It has a Longbranch marked safety. I have been told that due to the close proximity of LB and Savage that they would supply each other with small parts when one ran low. Any comment on that?

Hi ....

For members who may also be trying to assess the general correctness of a Savage they may be examining against an original issued one, go to the England - Milsurp Knowledge Library (click here) and view the 82 picture photo gallery montage for the 1943 Savage No.4 Mk1* Enfield Rifle (click here).

Here's a couple of pics from the photo montage showing the area of the safety and Savage markings.

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Also on the subject of Savages, with thanks to Advisory Panel member Lance, there's also a rare "all correct" 1942 No.4 Mk1*(T) Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope) (click here) .....

Lance's article, accompanied by a detailed 165 pic photo montage, speaks to this example as being one of approximately 3,400 Savage rifles converted by Holland and Holland and re-barreled with an Enfield 5 groove barrel, however, it was never fitted with a matching No.32 scope.

Here's the area of the safety and markings from the Savage Sniper Rifle (less scope).

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It doesn't surprise me for the reasons stated that there was a cross pollination of parts. It's also seen on Canadian Long Branch No.4(T) sniper rifles where some Savage parts found their way across the border to Canada.

Hope this helps...

Regards,
Badger

[MJ1]

Front sling loop and front band close ups? I have a '43 that has a problem with the front sling loop and pictures would help me deside if I'm keeping or parting out the rifle or not.

[bradtx]

MJ1, Give me a couple of days for pics...I promised to help a friend with his toy car and it unexpectly, to me anyway, was brought off the back burner to the front.

madcratebuilder, Original backsights for Savage are the Mk.I very early in production, then the Mk.II afterwards. Is that a Canadian backsight? (There won't be a spacer on the RHS at the pin, BTW.)

Brad

[jmoore]

Hi All, I've just partially disassembled this rifle for another thread. As it has the pattern style upper and lower barrel bands (real PIA to install) does anyone need any info while it's apart? It's 100% original so it may help someone. I'll leave it disassembled for a couple of days.

Brad

Sure, how about a survey of the front handguard, most notably the rivet features? See my thread on such madness:
Rivet Tail Variations on No4 Front Handguard Nosecaps - Military Surplus Collectors Forums

Thanks!

[madcratebuilder]

MJ1, Give me a couple of days for pics...I promised to help a friend with his toy car and it unexpectly, to me anyway, was brought off the back burner to the front.

madcratebuilder, Original backsights for Savage are the Mk.I very early in production, then the Mk.II afterwards. Is that a Canadian backsight? (There won't be a spacer on the RHS at the pin, BTW.)

Brad

Thanks Brad, I appreciate the schooling. This Savage is 76C8515, bolt matches with S marked #3 head. Bands, trigger guard, magazine, butt stock all are S marked. The rear sight is marked on the top front MK3. The back is marked M 47 at the top and the peep is marked MK3. There is a spacer on the right side of the pivot pin.