What's the * designate?

[iringtwice]

In several post I've seen where folks refer to the No1MKIII and NO1MKIII* whats that asterisk for? THANKS!

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[gunner]

Hi iringtwice,

As far as i know the "*" they did some modifications on a existing rifle without launching a new series like a No.1 MK. IV or an No. 1 MK. XXXI.
Hope it is understandable said?!

Regards

Gunner

[Alan de Enfield]

In several post I've seen where folks refer to the No1MKIII and NO1MKIII* whats that asterisk for? THANKS!

It was basically to make production more simple - complicated parts were done away with, there was a war on and rifles were needed as quickly and cheaply as possible.

The major change was the removal of the 'cut off' (a flap that moved over the top of the magazine to make it a single shot, but which could be swung back out if the 'huns' were swarming towards them)

The modifications did not justify a new part 'number' so it became a 'modification' and in the English way a * was added.

You may see some of the older Enfields (Long Lees, No1 Mk1 etc) with several *s.

[jmoore]

There's a recent thread that covers this in some detail, but I've got to get back to work!

[Badger]

Related older threads on the subject …

No 1 MK 111 star changes (click here)

The anatomy of a Canadian refurbed No.1MkIII* (click here)

Regards,
Badger

[Peter Laidler]

A star 'marker' indicates a change in the structure/type of the weapon. In othger words, a simple upgrade. Think No4 Mk1 with a simple change to Mk1* or as we say in England '....same meat, different gravy'. Thereafter, another slight change to a No4 Mk1* rifle would progress it to a No4 Mk1*** or 1/3

It's not well known that after the star marker was changed for the / marker, the No1 Mk3* rifle was officially, the No1 Mk3/1

In Britain, we describe this as 'Number one mark three oblique one'

[bradtx]

iringtwice, To go just a tad further...The '*' signified a minor change within a model and mark. Specifically for the No.1 Mk.III* it was the deletion of volley sights (which also changed the fore end milling), windage adjustable back sight and the magazine cutoff. The fun part is that following WWI until the early part of WWII the Mk.III made a comeback, but while the designation was the same as old, the configuration really only included the return of the magazine cutoff. Often a WWI Mk.III* (if a cutoff slot were already present) would recieve a cutoff plate and have the * lined through, effectively making it a Mk.III following a rearsenal/FTR.

Brad

[Edward Horton]

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[iringtwice]

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Easy Ed, I'm feeling a little bit "disgruntled" with comments like that