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what do you think? im not sure what euroarms means by 'shutter not mono" ?
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09-27-2010 08:09 PM
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Never seen the diamond in a U mark, nor the broad arrow between two Ts
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its south african marked.
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Originally Posted by
smle13
what do you think? im not sure what euroarms means by 'shutter not mono" ?
Thanks!!
Just a wild guess but could 'shutter not mono' be refering to the magazine cut off meaning its a multi-shot without the 'shutter'.
Mine are not the best, but they are not too bad. I can think of lots of Enfields I'd rather have but instead of constantly striving for more, sometimes it's good to be satisfied with what one has...
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Interesting rifle. The diamond in the U is a fairly common South African mark, but I've never seen the T^T. Anybody have an idea what it stands for?
What was the context of the "shutter not mono" comment?
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I don't think that's a broad arrow between two T's, but rather a broad arrow inside a serif-U mark. It's another version of the South African ownership markings, of which there were several types over the years. The bottom of the U is not completely visible, so it looks like a T.
IIRC, the U with broad arrow is the earlier mark. The one with the diamond was applied later, after South Africa left the Commonwealth.
Last edited by Jc5; 09-28-2010 at 12:49 PM.
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I think you've hit on it...makes much more sense.
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I don't think that's a broad arrow between two T's, but rather a broad arrow inside a serif-U mark. It's another version of the South African ownership markings, of which there were several types over the years. The bottom of the U is not completely visible, so it looks like a T.
IIRC, the U with broad arrow is the earlier mark. The one with the diamond was applied later, after South Africa left the Commonwealth.
Looking again I see you're quite correct on the "Ts" It is a large "U" Interesting that such a rifle would still be in service after 1961.
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In 1961, the UK
had only recently switched to the FN -FAL. Lee Enfields continued to be used officially in places like India throughout the 60s and 70s....some even today.
And in these modern times of plastic, short-range rifles with all sorts of flashlights, ipods, and pez dispensers sticking out of them, it is good to remember that well-built bolt action rifles (that have been decently maintained) can probably do their job just as well as they did 100 years ago. A Lee Enfield cannot check your email for you, but it can still reliably feed potent ammo and hit targets hard out to some considerable distance. Milk has an expiration date, but good rifles don't.
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As stated the Diamond in the U is a South African marking. It signifies that the rifle was sold out of government service. So far as I have been able to establish, it dates from shortly after the Second World War.
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