finally, attempting to show granddad's "bringback"

[blazer91]

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Hi to all, i've been reading and learning but not online everyday. As i said in "new member intro" last year, my grandfather (Ontario Tank Reg't) smuggled back this beauty M1 Carbine along with a Walther PPK (unfortunately stolen in the 80s), both taken from captured Germans approx. Jan 45 after Canadian Army liberated Holland and moved into Germany. He was MQMS (Mechanical Quarter Master Sargeant) and so/somehow escaped scrutiny when returning to Halifax. The story told to my dad was apparently quite a few treasures were tossed overboard in Halifax harbour by the "grunts" when informed thorough checks were in store.
I attempted to take close-up pics but my camera let me down, (even in close-up mode) so i will describe markings. Both it and the SKS remain well hidden due to the reality of living in Canada. We also have a few Lee-Enfields but all have been sporterized.

on barrel behind front sight is;
INLAND MFG. DIV
GENERAL MOTORS
4 - 44

partially obscured under rear sight is;
INLAND DIV (i believe this is what shows)
5270859

rear adjustable sight shows;
IRCO
7160060

mag release stamped;
M

in slingwell and on bottom of top foregrip (4 RIVETS);
IO

stamped on right side of stock is the CARTOUCHE

Note that the sling and stripper clips are from the 60s which Dad picked up while training with Canadian Army in Texas (Artillery, 1SSM Bty.) and the "oiler" is what he whittled from a clothespin. Both items plus a couple extra mags would be nice.
So, check the pics and again i am sorry for poor quality. I am not trying to sell or prove anything and only know what was passed down from my grandfather (passed away in 82) to father to me. This is only to share with likeminded persons and of course i welcome any comments.

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[shadycon]

Very nice and thanks for sharing your story.

[teal]

Thanks for posting interesting story,may you enjoy your treasured family heirloom for many years to come.

[painter777]

Blazer91,
There is so much more you could tell us about the current parts on that nice looking carbine. The picture showing the left side of your receiver reveals the two tone color shadow we most often find on original finished metal at this serial range.

But we need more, such as,
Front Sight- marking and type.
More Barrel markings- like the stamped P proof size and location. Markings on the underside barrel flat. Markings on the gas cylinder and end of the gas piston.
Type II Barrel band- Any markings? Or unmarked?
Trigger Housing- Usually marked on the right rear side. Can see the Hammer is a Flat style marked H.I.
Mag Catch- Marked M, but look on the front tooth for more markings.
Stock- Slingwell marking... IO ?
These are just to get you thinking and better yet......... Looking! Face it you've stumbled upon real carbine Junkies!

Don't know if your a member of The Carbine Club, if not......... Look in to joining. A world of knowledge from collectors with hands on experience and the eye for detail. The club asks for every member to contribute info.

In the link below, look near the bottom of the page for the DATA SHEET you can print off a copy and use it to help ID your parts. Best way you can share your carbine with us and ID the parts for yourself.

The Carbine Club - A CMP Affiliated Organization

Looking forward to your parts ID and............ Better Pictures

Regards,
Charlie-painter777

P.S. A good starter book runs about $25. Written by Craig Riesch. Titled-
U.S. M1 Carbines,
Wartime
Production
6th Edition.
Will help you ID most parts, assist in breakdown and assembly, etc.
Questions? That's what we're here for.

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[blazer91]

Hi, thanks for the comments already and yes Painter777, I should and will get a little more serious, just wish it was a little easier up here to do the "club" thing but without getting too political, suffice it to say that this beauty has to stay hidden away.
I just wonder how many other interesting "originals" are out there, stories yet untold (or lost forever) especially here in Canada where jewels like this have to hide.
regards,

[USGI]

Boy, that is one neat Inland! Thanks for sharing the gun and it's history with us. It looks like Charlie missed your "IO" in the slingwell reference, but as you can tell by his informative post, he doesn't usually miss much. Please give us more details and pictures when you get that camera to cooperate. - Bob

[blazer91]

I was not sure but now want to add this detail only because I would love to hear " the whole story" and it can be a small world.
On the buttstock is a set of initials starting with H. _._. along with approx. 8 "kill" marks scribed into the wood.
Does anyone know of a relative or friend that may have been captured by the Germans during the "Battle of the Bulge" resulting in this carbine being recovered not long after by Canadian troops?
I know this is a long shot (pardon the pun) but you never know....
regards, Jim

[blazer91]

sorry, meant to say "timeframe" of Battle of the Bulge as that is only one possibility even though it is most likely considering the circumstances.
Jim

[fn111557]

Jim,
GREAT looking piece of history you have there. I also can't wait to see more pics. realy interested in the initials / "kill marks". Please keep us posted and feed our relentless need for more "Gun Porn".
You may have problems with hiding away some historical toys, but I for one here in the USA wish I had access to your stash of SKS's in the "Great White North". You have two of my favorite rifles.
Fred

[Bubba-7]

OK, for those who want to raise restorations to the next level. Look at the picture of the trigger housing. Notice anything about the pins and safety?