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How about this Rock Ola Housing buy?
$1,025.00 + Shipping
RMC Type IV Housing
Trigger is marked Rock-Ola
Hammer is marked BR in a circle (Not RMC)
Sear with hole is marked Rock-Ola
Mag Catch is marked WA over M (Not RMC)
Safety is marked SS in a circle (Not RMC)
M1 Carbine Rock Ola Type 4 Trigger Housing Complete Rockola | eBay
FWIW, Should say For What It's Not Worth,
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OMG thats alot of cabbage
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Probably can't blame the seller. His description was accurate and the pictures were good. Hard to believe, isn't it? - Bob
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Type 4 pressed, holy moly. Even if there was a BR or AR mag catch, KR hammer, and unmarked push safety it doesn't come close to that figure.
Same two guys worked it up from $200.
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I would GUESS that it is either shill bidding or someone trying to drive the market value up on purpose.
Seems like when an item or two of one type sells for a stupid price, then everyone else starts demanding that their stuff sells for the same price. Soon the noobies and uninformed think that the inflated price is the "normal" price and are willing to pay it.
Remember when Inland rack grades were under $500 at CMP
. Yea, I know CMP prices are gone, but now EVERYONE wants their Inland rackers to be valued at $1,000 just because a couple of uninformed noobies were deperate enough to actually PAY that price. I believe in supply and demand setting market prices, but why do we let market prices be set by the greedy and stupid????
Just my two cents...
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Nobody "lets" prices be set in a free market. It's the old Invisible Hand thing. Nothing closer to a pure free market than an auction available to large numbers of potential buyers (more particularly so on used or one-of-a-kind items). As a seller would you refuse an offer substantially higher than what you thought something was worth? Can't be distorting the market price now.
I have a report of a WWII action showing several serial numbers of firearms recovered during a certain opposed beach landing. According to you, if I saw one of those guns on Gunbroker, I'd be a stupid noob for paying a premium. Assuming you know the buyer's knowledge, interest, and need surrounding an offer price is presumptuous.
My advice: stay away from Gunbroker.
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Hey guys, calm down. Sometimes bidding just goes nuts. No need to throw out innuendos.
I know I've paid more for some items then they were really worth. But it was to fill a hole.
Interesting to post, comment, and laugh about these kind of things, but let's not start getting upset with each other over some crazy auction.
Jim
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Don't worry, I am not taking it wrong. Its some good points. If an item does have some extra value for a reason, then it should sell for more. It there are excessive consumers for a limited availability of products, then the price should rise. I am in complete agreement with that entire concept.
I was actually trying to point out something different. I do not believe that most people who attempt to purchase collectable firearms actually take the time to research and learn the small details which define a weapon's value - they just buy to buy. The group of people that frequent this (and other) firearms forum seem to generally have a good/great grip on that. That lack of knowledge on the gross masses can be exploited by a few unreputable sellers in some venues. A good example is everyone's "Favorite" seller in California. Not only is alot of his parts fake, but he sets some really outragious prices. While we will never know the extent of his unwitted customer base, it obviously is large enough to keep him in business. That leads to what I was trying to point out about some of the "over priced" sales on GB and sites. If a few sellers are able to sell an item at an inflated price, then that over-inflated price becomes the new "minimum" price for that item. That is fine if its based on real supply and demand or specific "value added" factors. But if it is based on shill bidding (which is manipulation NOT free market), then that is is setting wrong expectations for all buyers and sellers.
But I do agree with most if not all of what Firstflabn.
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I look at the bids
The eventual winner put up a shoot for the moon number of $1025 @ 3:24P, that's bold considering that it wouldn't close until 7:09P, then the other guy just chipped away in small increments until quitting at $1K. This is an example of someone putting a part to bed knowing that he will get it and then gets the surprise of his life when someone else on the excitement plan wants the same part.
I doubt that this was shill bidding, just the S.S. Ignorance ramming and sinking the S.S. I'm Covered.
That's probably three times what it is worth (Not that I care about parts prices).
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Who Knows?
Personally, I think there is a lot of shill bidding going on and has been for some time, but I guess that's a seller's right. On the other hand, we know there are people who carry $1025 around as pocket change and wouldn't hesitate to blow it on a gun part if they wanted it. Based upon some of the dealer bidding I've seen lately I think there may be a semi-organized effort to inflate the market by some at this time. Who knows?
As an aside, do any of you have any opinions as to why so many quality carbine parts began showing up all of a sudden on the auction sites after a loooong drought? Is it perhaps because eBay finally could no longer stand the $ cost of their piety? LOL, ChipS