Carcano 41?

[BecauseRifles]

I traded a mosin for this carcano. I had plenty of mosins and this looked like fun. It says FAT 41 on the receiver and the stock number matches the receiver. Did someone modify this stock or is it something rarer? Appreciate any details. Thanks.Attachment 49012Attachment 49013

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[Aragorn243]

Bubba got a hold of that one and cut the stock. It may "look" like fun but wait until you try shooting it. You'll need to find a clip first as you can't load it one cartridge at a time. The extractor must pick up the cartridge from the clip or the bolt won't close.

[BecauseRifles]

Ok so a sporter. I did not see the caliber on the barrel, is it marked further back under the stock? Like M95 clips? Thanks

[jmoore]

The clips look these:



7,35mm ammo in this photo, but the clips are the same.

[Aragorn243]

I don't believe these are marked with the caliber. Nearly all were produced in 6.5 carcano. A very, very few were produced in 8mm Breda, these would be marked as such. 6.5 was the standard caliber, they marked rifles in other calibers to differentiate them from standard.

[BecauseRifles]

Thanks all, found clips at a reasonable price. Stock set looks to set me back around 74.00. Then I need bands. Where would the steel supplier stamp be?

[Patrick Chadwick]

Before you get carried away, read up on Carcano ammunition! Original ammo is effectively non-reloadable, as it used a totally unobtainable size of Berdan primer and the necks had peculiar little crimp indents. New cases and ammo are, however, available from PRVI. The bore is a touch larger than, for instance, a Swedish Mauser. So the usual 0.264" diameter bullets are slightly undersized, and the rare and expensive 0.268" bullets from Hornady, being deliberately made oversized, have been viewed sceptically by many as likely to cause overpressure. (0.266" would have been better, but unless someone orders a couple of hundred thousand, they are unlikely ever to be produced!) Which one performs better will depend on the state of the bore. Dig around on the internet and you will find articles stressing that the acceptable range of loads is rather narrow.

I have a beautiful parade example of a Fucile 91/41,

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but it did not cost me any more than you are going to be paying for stock + bands etc. Do not commit yourself to buying the rifle unless you are sure that you can obtain all the bits for an acceptable price! A sporterized Carcano is worth very little.

[Patrick Chadwick]

Where would the steel supplier stamp be?

On the right side of the knoxform. Typically 2-letter stamp, manufacturers generally unknown, with the exception of PO (Poldi-Hütte) on early Fucile 91 barrels. Other likely ones in this period are FP (F. Pedrotti ?), AT and BF.

[Patrick Chadwick]

CAUTION! If I remember correctly from earlier correspondence on this forum, some sporters were rechambered by US/Canadian importers to use other 6.5mm calibers, like the 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schönauer hunting cartridge. Search this forum - it seems that the results were somewhat dubious, and such sporters should be avoided.

[Aragorn243]

Do not commit yourself to buying the rifle unless you are sure that you can obtain all the bits for an acceptable price! A sporterized Carcano is worth very little.

I think he already made the trade. A Mosin Nagant is probably worth two Carcano's in this state. If you take your time you can probably get a stock for less than that. Metal can be found on e-bay, there's a lot of it and it doesn't usually sell high.