No4 Mk1 T sniper rear leaf sight

[suikoden2003]

does anyone know where to find or a source for a No. 4 mk1 leaf sight but with the battle sights grounded off?

thanks

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[CINDERS]

You could buy a No.4 sight off fleabay for $40-70 and grind the battle sight off yourself taking care when you finish its flat is nice and smoothly finished with wet and dry then just cold blue, if your after a proper one off a real T then the forum members who may have one MAY part with it at a cost otherwise allot of trolling gun boards and fleabay to get your real T rear sight. By the way if it is a bona-fide one be prepared to pay a tidy sum for it.

[lugerfan]

Out of interest was there any particular manufacturer used for a T converted sight, I think I've seen singer in the past on a 45 BSA, or are multiple manufacturers used?

[suikoden2003]

You could buy a No.4 sight off fleabay for $40-70 and grind the battle sight off yourself taking care when you finish its flat is nice and smoothly finished with wet and dry then just cold blue, if your after a proper one off a real T then the forum members who may have one MAY part with it at a cost otherwise allot of trolling gun boards and fleabay to get your real T rear sight. By the way if it is a bona-fide one be prepared to pay a tidy sum for it.

yea that's kinda what i'm planning to do if there's no where to get one. another question: were there anything difference from the sniper sights and the regular sights like special makers, markings and etc?

[Roger Payne]

I'm open to correction from others on this one, but all 4T rifles of BSA Shirley origin that I have seen that have not been FTR'ed have had Singer manufactured sights. Earlier rifles bear sights marked with Singer's early marking form of SM followed by the last two digits of the date, eg. SM41, & later rifles such as 44 & 45's bear sights with the later allotted code for Singer, of N67 (Northern Area factory number 67). Having said that there are some exceptions in that some rifles were sent to Holland & Holland with battle sights fitted, but which were otherwise up to conversion standards, & these had sights fitted from a stockpile of spares held by H&H. It is known that many rifles were fitted with sights of Savage manufacture. I have seen or owned several, & all were of BSA 1943 manufacture, but other dates may well exist.

Of course, if a rifle has been through ordnance repair or refurbishment it could have a sight of any provenance on it. As Peter has said on many occasions armourers simply fitted what functioned correctly & were not too bothered about the factory of origin.

Hope this helps.

[lugerfan]

Thanks roger, pretty much what I'd assumed, good to have it confirmed..

[Simon]

I've got a couple or three hanging about in the gunroom, drop me a PM if you're still after a genuine example

[Peter Laidler]

On the other hand, as an Armourer working in a standard Field or Base - or even at his unit workshop - he'd just get the next leaf out of a small box of assorted spares off the shelf and use that. They weren't changed very often. The biggest fault was a slack cursor slide or screw. So you'd rectify that fault first by tightening the round nut in the slide or replacing the screw retaining pin.

[suikoden2003]

On the other hand, as an Armourer working in a standard Field or Base - or even at his unit workshop - he'd just get the next leaf out of a small box of assorted spares off the shelf and use that. They weren't changed very often. The biggest fault was a slack cursor slide or screw. So you'd rectify that fault first by tightening the round nut in the slide or replacing the screw retaining pin.

Nice. I wish it was that easy for me. the No4 T i got had the whole rear sight missing. not even the pins or spring remains. is there a specific look to the sight in the grounded area like should it be completely flat or some meat remaining?

[suikoden2003]

I've got a couple or three hanging about in the gunroom, drop me a PM if you're still after a genuine example

just PMed you.