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Years of M1 Garand wisdom & knowledge lost
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Bill Hollinger
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not all lost
Most if not all should be available on the wayback machine
Internet archive
Goggle it and enter CSP
.com
Some of the links also work
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Louis, we will all miss the old forum and more as time goes along. It was a special place and the sheer numbers of visitors kept it vital and fresh.
Personally, I never paid much attention to squabbles, as I come from the chat room world, where name-calling is long, loud and often vulgar in a manner never seen on CSP
. I never took it seriously in that world and, frankly, disregarded it on CSP as childish squabbling over things beyond our control. It bothered some, but you learned to grow a thicker skin or retreat to those forums who count their numbers on two hands and have fingers left over. I prefer the open fight and always enjoyed large numbers of people arguing and adding to conversations. It kept things lively and people, like I say, adjusted or moved on.
We will never get anywhere the sheer volume of users because this format doesn't support that many and will never tolerate the literally hundreds and hundreds of people that used to visit the old site simultaneously. It was slowed not by faults or poor administration, but by sheer volume. I have gone out to the kitchen and seen a post get twenty-five views in less than 30 minutes. This site and format can't do that. So, YES, Louis we have lost the information that numbers could provide and we will wait longer to get less information on our favorite subject.
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Well Gents, we're sure as Hell not in Kansas anymore, but change is indeed inevitable. I had no idea this was all going on 'till I tried to log onto the Shopper one eve. WOW. Well, there's no point looking back. Lets move forward and hope that the Old Guard will join up once again.
Meantime.... I'll do my best to get used to it as soon as I can. I hope you'll do the same. H.
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Tried your wayback machine; no dice

Originally Posted by
Mark in Rochester
Most if not all should be available on the wayback machine
Internet archive
Goggle it and enter csp.com
Some of the links also work
Mark - Thanks for your suggestion to go onto the wayback machine. I tried it but only found meaningless Jouster
fragments. However, I find that I've regrown some hair on my head, so I really appreciate your help - Louis of PA
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While I certainly appreciate your sentiment Louis.....I wonder how much more "lost" things are now than they were two weeks ago? The Culver
's computers haven't "died", and archive services like Wayback are still around.
No, the major "asset" CSP has are people! Some leave, others arrive, some God takes from us too soon.....Socrates described the perfect school as a log, with a teacher on one end and a student on the other. As long as the log exists, it doesn't matter if it's oak or maple!
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[B]Louis
I recovered this from the internet archive with just a few minutes effort - not everything is there but all is not lost[
Mark /B]
Re: difference between SA and WRA gas cyl?
Posted By: Joe the Butcher
Date: Friday, 18 February 2000, at 6:43 a.m.
Might I add; the barrel ring is much thicker than SA. The rounded top barrel ring profile will have what appears to be hand-grinding tool marks running sideways at the very top. There is a 1/16 step just under the sight platform on both sides of the WRA cylinder. Original finish on WRA is bluing over iron plating. WRAs also have heavy machine marks on base platform and at utmost rear of the cylinder. The stack swivel screw is staked with a rounded tool that leaves a domed appearance. No other manufacturer staked them this way.
Some knock offs and foreign cylinders also have this round rear ring profile but they are wide base configuration and do not exhibit the grinding or thick features discribed above.
If you have a narrow base cylinder in front of you, chances are that it's a SA. WRAs are scarce.
Hope this helps. JTB
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