An ex-pat returned

[old tanker]

Here's one to puzzle folks. Who knows what we have here?

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[WarPig1976]

Lend lease 1897 Winchester?

[old tanker]

Lend lease 1897 Winchester?

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A Remington Model 14-1/2, serial 20043, caliber .44-40 (aka .44 WCF) Based on the flush "REM-UMC" ammo indicator, the receiver not being tapped for a tang sight, and the last patent date on the barrel "Nov.19.12" as a I'd peg this rifle around 1913 production. The DCP Canadian proof indicates it was part of an order for 4,000 in 44-40 for use during the First World War. These rifles were scattered all over the Empire, and at least one (serial 34292) is still in the Imperial War Museum.

Remington 14 1/2 rifle (FIR 5354)

[WarPig1976]

Huh,,,,

[browningautorifle]

it was part of an order for 4,000 in 44-40 for use during the First World War.

Foraging guns I should guess...I know the US had Mod '94 carbines issued on a limited basis too.

[old tanker]

Foraging guns I should guess...I know the US had Mod '94 carbines issued on a limited basis too.

From the Imperial War Museum site, there was this tidbit:

"At the outbreak of the First World War, few military aircraft were armed. As a result a variety of weapons were issued to airmen during the early part of the war. This American Remington pump-action rifle was one of 4000 purchased by the British Admiralty to address a shortage of service rifles, many of which had been transferred to the Army. The original intention was to equip various small naval craft, but a number of these rifles were passed to the Royal Naval Air Service as aircraft armament."

Aircraft armament?? Kinda makes you wonder if someone at the Admiralty had been into the grog?

[browningautorifle]

From the Imperial War Museum site

Yes, I read that part. I also know that foraging guns were issued but can't imagine their use. I've also followed the sequence of the armament of aircraft and those weren't mentioned except that "Sporting rifles" were taken aloft at some point... Handguns and lengths of chain...