Enfield No4 Mk 1/3

[EddieB]

Looking to get an idea of a value for a No4 Mk 1/3 that is at a local pawn shop. Sorry no pictures. Gun looks to be in great shape. Serial numbers on the stock, receiver and bolt match. Magazine does not. Rifling look good and the headspace checks ok. Stock seems tigh overall.

I have looked every where for estimates on value, one book (the one at the shop says 1,000+ my book (Military Firearms) say Exc. 550, V.G. 375, Good 300. I have looked on GB and no 1/2 or 1/3 sold recently or are active right now.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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[mr.e moose]

If you are talking USD it had better be pristine, in excellent condition with all numbers matching. Your book has a more realistic value for the rifle though it may be a few years old.

[skorper]

Serial number on magazine not matching is really not a problem.
The Mk.1/3 designation means it went through an FTR (factory Thorough Repair) and was upgraded to the No.4 Mk2 configuration.
I have seen asking prices all over the map for No.4 rifles but have seldom seen any actually sell for over $500 usd.

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I would like to know what book they have that says an Enfield No.4 Mk.1/3 is worth $1000.....

[EddieB]

Serial number on magazine not matching is really not a problem.
The Mk.1/3 designation means it went through an FTR (factory Thorough Repair) and was upgraded to the No.4 Mk2 configuration.
I have seen asking prices all over the map for No.4 rifles but have seldom seen any actually sell for over $500 usd.

I would like to know what book they have that says an Enfield No.4 Mk.1/3 is worth $1000.....

Thanks for the reply, next time I am in the shop I will jot it down if I remember. So 350 - 400 is more realistic, based on condition.

[skorper]

Yes, I see them all the time in that price range. As well, I believe that the "Mk.1/3" designation as opposed to the "Mk.1/2" means that it was originally a No.4 Mk.1* which has the cut in the right of the receiver for the bolt head, to remove the bolt. I personally would never own one, it was a wartime expedient cost cutting measure and the cut in the rail was prone to damage. I have seen a lot of Enfield Rifles, and at least a third of the No.4 Mk.1* rifles I have seen have damage to top edges of this cut. It causes the bolt head to jump up and out during rapid manipulation of the action. And it only gets worse with use. So take a real good look at that before buying.

[EddieB]

Thanks Skorper I appreciate the info.

[P246]

I sold 10No 4s on consignment last year. The only one that brought over 500 was a 1941Long Branch...I should have bought it myself.

[Patrick Chadwick]

I would like to know what book they have that says an Enfield No.4 Mk.1/3 is worth $1000.....

Maybe a book written by someone who has a load of them to sell?

Over here, a No. 4 Mk 1, of whatever version, is worth considerably less (half?) than a Mk. 2. There does not seem to be any kind of "historical" premium, which would in any case be negated after an FTR. FTR makes it a better rifle for shooting, but there are enough Mk 2s around, so no scarcity value.