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Looking for help on a May 1944 British-proofed M1 Garand
Hi all,
I recently picked up an SA M1 Garand from May 1944, #2818xxx with a 6-44 barrel. Accompanied with the rifle is a stiff British
sling. The barrel in particular has British proof marks on it that suggest it came back to the United States
in 1978 based on sources provided by this forum. It has nearly all correct parts except for the bolt, which is S-11<>.
Pictures can be found here for reference: '44 Garand - Album on Imgur
The metal parts of the rifle all show considerably similar signs of wear, particularly the receiver, operating rod, and barrel, which is "in the white" but measures ~5 at the throat and eats my CMP
muzzle gauge.
The stock, while in significantly better condition than the metal parts of the rifle, has mold inside the channel and underneath the handguards. Aside from that, the stock and handguards appear too well cared for in comparison to the treatment of the rest of the rifle. The lower band still retains a solid pin, but it appears there may have been attempts to wrestle it out. I accidentally discovered I was able to prod it back and forth; I assume this suggests it is not properly snug?
I'm looking for any comments on the rifle, particularly as they relate to the lower band pin and the front and rear handguards. I'm wondering if the barrel is original to the rifle, despite the rough finish of the metal and the seemingly oiled wood. As previously mentioned, the lower band pin is still in place, but there does appear to be some mistreatment.
I believe these rifles were initially disassembled upon their return to the United States, but per my limited knowledge, I know this only to be the case for Interarm LL rifles during the '50s and '60s, which this rifle is not. Furthermore, as I additionally understand, rifles typically had barrel dates that were 0-3 months before the receiver date; this is one month after the receiver.
I'm happy to know any additional information that could shed more light on this rifle.
Thank you kindly.
Respectfully,
- Michael
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Last edited by Ms15710; 02-10-2022 at 11:25 PM.
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02-10-2022 11:13 PM
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Undoubtedly the lower band pin has been stripped out at some time in the 70 odd years since manufacture. It's been in private hands for decades.
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Where are the British
proof marks located on your rifle ? Your barrel could be original to the receiver. That lower band pin
looks like it was removed a few times too. I have seen the Home Guard 1940 slings on M1
rifles. Some of your rear sight parts have been replaced.
I also have a April 1944 with the same wear on my receiver and believe it was a "bring back"
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Hi sir,
The British
proof marks are located above the gas cylinder, not beneath the operating rod-like many Lend-Lease rifles I have come across. Does this increase or decrease the possibility of it being the original barrel, despite the barrel date being one month after the receiver?
Barrel - Album on Imgur
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The advanced Lend Lease Collectors (I am not one) would want a rifle from the first 38K group, red band around the front handguard,
and with BNP proofs under the operating rod at the rear of the barrel, plus the rifle would be in almost new condition.
Your barrel could well be original to your receiver with or without the proof marks. the proof marks just indicate your rifle was imported
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It’s not a lend lease M-1 as it falls outside the appropriate serial number range. It is an M-1 that at some point transitioned through Great Brittain.
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Originally Posted by
twh
It is an M-1 that at some point transitioned through Great
Britain
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Exactly.
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I'm assuming lend lease Garands where all 42-43?
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I had 328219 SA myself...
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