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    France?

    I see everyone talking about Russiaicon, what about Franceicon? Seems to be turning into a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aragorn243 View Post
    I see everyone talking about Russiaicon, what about Franceicon? Seems to be turning into a disaster.
    I follow European and Middle Eastern news sources to get the bigger picture of what's going on in the world, most of which isn't covered by American news agencies which are too busy with local and national news and/or propaganda. Anyone with half a brain could have predicted there would eventually be problems with allowing a greater influx of immigrants than a country could assimilate. Denmarkicon, Swedenicon, Germanyicon, Englandicon, among others have seen huge upticks in violence and sexual assaults since their respective virtue-signaling political leaders opened their borders to huge waves of immigration. Cultures clash, enclaves are formed and resentment grows on both sides. Throw race and religion into the mix and you've got a ticking time bomb. I'm not pointing fingers at either side as I can understand their struggles but I do blame politicians who are too cowardly to stand up to criticism from the Left to do what's right which is make the welfare and prosperity of the citizens and taxpayers of your country your focus.

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    That's about the strength of it here we have a severe housing shortage with rentals, new builds and 2nd hand places for sale and allot of ppl are sleeping in their cars or bidding on rentals like paying above the asking price so they can get a roof over their families heads.
    So our powers that be are scopuring for 10,000 tradies from overseas to help get more houses built hang on hhhmmmm! one issue that is really glaring there is no where to house them because we cannot house our own ppl let alone immigrants.
    We have a brand new unused purpose built quarantine station for the pandemic that could house possibly up to a 1000 ppl near Perth airport but the Gvt is happy to leave it sit there brand new and empty costing the tax payers a few million $'s a year in up keep and security.
    Too little to late by ppl who are supposed to be for the ppl but a more concerned with their public image and making promises they cannot keep its pretty sad really having ppl dying homeless in the streets due to hypothermia, its been very cold and wet winter so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CINDERS View Post
    new builds and 2nd hand places for sale and allot of ppl are sleeping in their cars or bidding on rentals like paying above the asking price so they can get a roof over their families heads.
    That's a version of a similar deal in my area - only to add insult all the county and local councils are in a hurry to re-zone areas that would easily become single-family or townhome developments, or a mix, and put up data centers instead which bring no jobs, and force everyone's electric bills to skyrocket so the utility can build out their special power requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssgross View Post
    That's a version of a similar deal in my area - only to add insult all the county and local councils are in a hurry to re-zone areas that would easily become single-family or townhome developments, or a mix, and put up data centers instead which bring no jobs, and force everyone's electric bills to skyrocket so the utility can build out their special power requirements.
    I know a thing or two about Data Centers since I have been building, commissioning, and running them for about twenty years now. Texas has the greatest concentration of data centers in the nation and I have variously worked on or at data centers for C.B.R.E., Texas Instruments, T5 data centers, RackSpace, Raging Wire and NTT to name a few. Data centers are notoriously labor intensive to build and provide hundreds of good paying construction jobs while they are being built. Yes, running them only takes a couple of dozen or so trained technicians, network types, and support staff but that's still more than the equivalent Class A office space or even multi-family residence maintenance staff and the pay is excellent. Yes, they are energy intensive, at least the legacy DC's are but modern cooling equipment such as heat exchangers and Kyoto units and green practices have greatly reduced their energy consumption. Toyota's new North American headquarters in Plano, Texas actually produces a surplus of electricity during the day and sells approximately 50 MWhours each and everyday to the utility. State Farm's Data center stores 1,000,000 gallons of chilled water in a huge storage tank which it replenishes at night when the demand is low and then uses it during the day to keep the data center cool. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with your comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    Anyone with half a brain could have predicted there would eventually be problems with allowing a greater influx of immigrants than a country could assimilate.
    I think that Franceicon has a number of underlying problems that other countries, such as the UKicon and US, don't have to the same extent such as the apparent lack of integration of immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapper740 View Post
    I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with your comment.
    Fair enough Sapper, and no apologies needed Texas is certainly a very different place, and I mean that in the nicest possible way - I may have to join you before long. Have you built one in your backyard yet? or right across the street from your front door? What about leveling a park to build one over it instead? This is what it's like here. I'm off topic though...back to Franceicon

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    Franceicon has been at the fore front of woke policies for longer than most , its a failed ideology , as you prop one demographic up , others are suppressed , unfortunately they are the ones that feed the country , its going to happen here in the states ,the number of illegals that the left allow to flood our borders ad treat them as if we owe them something , in fact they treat them better than actual citizens , at one point they tried to pass funding to give them thousands of dollars just for entering the country illegally ,while funding 87k NEW ARMED IRS AGENTS to come after citizens and their property to pay for it

    here is a prime example , i own a small construction company , ive been priced out of decks , and interior trim by migrants , they flooded the workforce and drive wages down , they do not pay tax and the money they earn goes back to what ever dirt floor country they hail from so feeding on our economy , suppressing the indigenous population (us citizens) , not investing back into the host , that by definition is a parasite

    if you want to run a restaurant or a roach coach , the health dept is all over you , where the food is prepared , where the food is served , im on the job and watch these two mexican girls pull up in a beat up honda civic ,, get out , pop the hatch and start selling slop that was poured into igloo coolers , its 95 degrees out , the coolers are disgusting , i call the health dept , they do not care because they are illegals , if the back of the car looks like that , what does the place they cook it look like

    its this which causes that , they take from us to give to them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    lack of integration of immigrants.
    Its not the lack of integration F10 it's having your own ppl dying in the street (23 this year so far) through lack of housing we may not get snow here but our winters such as now can be brutally cold.
    I just don't get it we have a $6 billion surplus for our state in West Au and our hospital system is shot, no housing and mile high prices since Covid hit I'm sorta glad I possibly wont be here in 25 years time as it has basically gone to Sh*te.

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    The OP was asking about Franceicon and the recent widespread civill unrest across that country. Being in denial will resolve nothing.

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