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I don't know the range of the Ivanhoe guns. Anybody else?

Yes, I did pick them up from the Alderfer auction, as well as a Garand. I'm selling one (currently on GB, so anyone who notices any factual mistakes in my listing please let me know) and will keep...

Disregard, I figured out on my own that you can't work the action if the hammer is half-cocked.:lol:

OK, what did I do wrong? I just took out the magazine spring and plug, but once I put them back on I can't work the actions. It was working fine prior to that. :sos:

Thanks for in the info. So was there such a thing as a commercial trench gun?

I just want to replace the wood with another I have. If it's a complicated procedure, don't worry about trying to...

Ok, so what do the three grooves signify?

And sorry if "handguard" is the wrong nomenclature. What I meant to say it how do you remove the wood-grainy ribbed thingy the slides back and forth on...

Are these the grooves you were talking about? These appeared after I removed the the remaining lug piece.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/04/009-1.jpg

Another new question: How...

Never mind, just figured it out.

I have seen several of these lately at auctions. Are these Korean produced? Did any of the US manufactured cut-down bayos used on the Garand (M1905s, M1942s) not have markings?

To make sure I got this straight:

Winchester model 97 riot guns were made for 1) the military 2) law enforcement and 3) commercial. Is that right? Is there a distinction between the commercial...

So what is anyone's best guess--were these ever used by the military, or did they go straight to law enforcement. Maybe there is no way to know. :dunno: But, if they had never been military, why...

Here are the pics.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/04/265_6518-1.jpg

https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/2009/04/265_6519-1.jpg
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First of all, thanks for the info.

I'm pretty sure both are solid frame. I'll try to get some pics up tomorrow.

Are the buttstocks easy to remove on these? I wanted to switch them, but I...

oops, I meant E732XXX. And both are marked "CYL"

One one I see some faint lines perpendicular to the barrel, but they're pretty faint. Both serial numbers are in the E372XXX range.

I recently picked up two Model 97s that once were the property of the Denver Police Department - neat looking guns. However, both riot guns had the ventilated barrel shroud removed and parts of the...