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Hi all,
I just received this wonderful, frightening book.
I read it as a teenager at school. We had a wonderful English teacher, Mr. Conway. A crazy, genial Irish guy.
I think he has been one of the most important characters in my life, because he taught me to look at life with a very ironic eye, but to never back-up from your beliefs, no matter what happens.
This crappy Coronavirus has made me think a lot and so I thought that it was time to read 1984 again.
And I'll have my son read it too, because I want him to get that creepy feeling that comes when you see how controlled they are in the book. And I also want him to understand what is going on with or "democracy" during this crises.
While at my time (mid-80ies) we would have never thought of being constantly monitored, now it is real. And we are bombarded by propaganda all the time, on all media.
Sometimes I talk (or my wife or friends of ours) about something and when we surf the Internet again with our phone, we find commercials of what we were talking about.
That book was pure prophecy, and I want to read it now, while feeling so...enraged.
Having it again, also my daughters will read it when they'll have the age.
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Big brother has been with us a long time and getting bigger by the day.
The latest one I have been watching is A.I as if and when we cross that void and robotics become self aware then as that movie depicts may see us as the virus and eliminate us, allot of people have scoffed at different prophecies that book Ovidio is not that far removed from the truth we live now.
At least when I read my WWI - WWII history books I do not get a creepy feeling!
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The future is now friend. China's 'social credit system' straight out of Orwell's '1984'
And the same companies who provide our "services", forged their chains.
The key is in the lock, the tumblers have aligned and the hands are waiting to turn it.
Keep reading.
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Edward Bernays, 1928
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I look at these guys like ORWELL and of course NOSTRADAMUS. They must have had sad lives when you read their stuff, much of which has come true.
Was it that obvious and the stuff thats coming or been on time???
I'm an inventor of Police & Military equipment, I wish I had that sort of foresight
'Tonight my men and I have been through hell and back again, but the look on your faces when we let you out of the hall - we'd do it all again tomorrow.' Major Chris Keeble's words to Goose Green villagers on 29th May 1982 - 2 PARA
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Originally Posted by
Surpmil
Horrendous...
My Grandpa alway warned against the "yellow danger"...
He knew them well and was convinced that they would have come to this.
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Originally Posted by
CINDERS
Big brother has been with us a long time and getting bigger by the day.
The latest one I have been watching is A.I as if and when we cross that void and robotics become self aware then as that movie depicts may see us as the virus and eliminate us, allot of people have scoffed at different prophecies that book Ovidio is not that far removed from the truth we live now.
At least when I read my WWI - WWII history books I do not get a creepy feeling!
I find I am less and less interested in reading about what amounts to historical trivia. That "creepy feeling" or however one wants to describe it, is like pain in the body: a warning to pay attention before a crisis is reached.
“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same. 
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It is interesting when you watch older 'state of the nation' books or movies. It brings to mind the Will Smith movie 'Enemy of the State' and how now in 2020 that is all seen as basic and commonplace well in 1998 it was terrifying (to me it still is).
Some of the technology and capabilities they have now make the Stazi look like amateurs.
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I think that some of Orwell's predictions were frighteningly accurate.
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Originally Posted by
Surpmil
Got it and read it before 1984. With Mr. Conway;-)
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Originally Posted by
Flying10uk
I think that some of Orwell's predictions were frighteningly accurate.
Anyone who paid attention to what was going on in Russia
from 1918 onward, or who bothered to read the emigré books that began to appear after the Great Terror began, could easily see what life was like in a such a state.
Orwell also saw what happened in Spain, where the POUM militia with which he was associated was being suppressed by the Soviet NKVD and their Spanish tools, along with every other group not controlled by Communists. (The Spanish gold reserves were shipped to Odessa and never seen again BTW)
Happily the "Republican" scum lost, as otherwise Germany
would unquestionably have invaded Spain after the conquest of France
, Gibraltar would have been taken, and the Mediterranean would have become an Axis lake. Egypt and Suez would go next, the oil of Middle East and Iraq would have been open to Germany, and Soviet Russia probably crushed in a far better prepared and wider-fronted attack.
The result of that would have been unquestionably an Axis victory in WWII. The only possible variations would have been whether Britain
would have survived as an independent state, and what Japan
would have done that might have still led to the development of atomic weapons.
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“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same. 
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