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M1 Garand Sight Range/Distance Guide
If I’m asking a dumb question or if this is posted someplace else don’t go all jihad on me, I couldn’t find an answer using search.
So the rear sight of the gun as you all know has horizontal and vertical adjustments. For the vertical one for range, is there a guide that says 0 clicks = 50 yards, 1 click = 100 yards, 3 clicks = 200 yards, etc., etc., …? I ask because there should be something standard. I know all rifles are different and old rifles aren’t like new ones. But I’m really looking to just get ballparks here.
The reason I ask is because I’m going to be firing the M1 Garand rifle in question at 100 yards this weekend and I want to know roughly how many clicks I should be at. If you say between 1 and 4 and I fall into the 15-20 range I will know that something is wrong. I don’t have any experience firing the weapon so I don’t know what to expect as far as sight adjustments. If you asked me about my M700 I could rattle that off in my sleep.
Thanks for the input.
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01-30-2015 06:13 PM
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On most M1's, 8 clicks up from bottomed will get you on paper at 200yds. This will vary from rifle to rifle, but is a ball park figure. 2 clicks down from your 200yd zero is generally good for a 100yd. zero. So try 6 clicks and adjust from there. These settings are using a 6 o'clock hold on the standard NRA SR target.
Now, go forth and have fun.
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Originally Posted by
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On most
M1's, 8 clicks up from bottomed will get you on paper at 200yds. This will vary from rifle to rifle, but is a ball park figure. 2 clicks down from your 200yd zero is generally good for a 100yd. zero. So try 6 clicks and adjust from there. These settings are using a 6 o'clock hold on the standard NRA SR target.
Now, go forth and have fun.
Yay! Now I'm armed with knowledge!
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In 1960 Basic we zeroed at 25 yards which gave you a zero for your 200-yard battle sight that allowed you to engage man-sized targets from 50 yards to 400 yards by aiming center of mass. At 25 yards each click moved the impact point 1/4 inch. At 100 yards a click should move it 1 inch IIRC.
Real men measure once and cut.
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If you go by the targeting and accuracy test in the over haul manual 8 clicks up +/- 2 clicks you should be on at target per mechanical standards from 1000" INCHES to 100 yards.
We and the rifles all have their own "zero"
I have been playing with the targeting and accuracy tests with my garands lately, all pass this simple test.
Got to play in the snow today, M1
In a nut shell place a 3.44"w x 5.11"t rectangle with a 1.5" half black bull roughly in the center of the rectangle. Place this target at 83'4" or 1000" the test says 3 warm up shots then the next five consecutive shots should fall with in the rectangle and group 1.77" or less.
Your sights should be windage front sight centered rear sight centered. Elevation 8 clicks up.
It allows for front sight adjustment for windage and 2 clicks +/- to get group with in the rectangle.
that said all 4 of my shooters have different zeros from 6-10 clicks and a few clicks l and r
Last edited by mac1911; 02-03-2015 at 10:00 AM.
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Some period training films and manuals in the MKL...
Rifle Marksmanship with the M1 Garand Rifle (1942)
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Doug
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also once you get your 100 yard zero your rough come ups will be 100-200 yards 2 moa( clicks) 200-300 3moa ( clicks) 300-600 11 moa (clicks)
clicks apply M1 with 1 moa sights
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As you mentioned, each and every rifle is different. I have 4 M1's and no two are set the same. One is dead-on at 100 yards with the rear sight all the way down. The others range from 4-8 clicks up to get on at 100 yards. Unfortunately, there is no answer that is chiseled in stone for your question. All you can do is shoot it and adjust as necessary. Have fun! That's what it's all about.
Jon
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I found some great Army training films from 1942 which do a nice job explaining the rear sight elevation and wind age system. They can be found in the military public domain channel. I figure if it was good enough for those boys it's good enough for me.
Anyway, they say to start at 10 clicks up at 200 yards. 1 click up or down should move you 2" on paper. There are some great field expedient tips for estimating wind speed which should help too.
I'm a noob Garand owner and I'm positively dying to get mine to the range. I'll be using the previously mentioned army films as my guide for finding zero and developing my own dope sheets. Good luck.
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Care to share a link? Thanks!
Bob
"It is said, 'Go not to the elves for counsel for they will say both no and yes.' "
Frodo Baggins to Gildor Inglorion, The Fellowship of the Ring
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