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    correct matching scope for my izhevsk 91/30

    I have a 1943 izhevsk 91/30 with the serial number "3C1217" which i'm turning into a repro sniper

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    Original World War II PU Rifle Sniper Scopes.

    any know the correct manufacturer or particular serial numbers a izhevsk PU sniper would have?

    I plan to make this as a home project for a very convincing replica
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    Is the rifle an ex-sniper, with filled mount holes? I have never run across a 3C prefix can you take a picture of the barrel shank with the markings?
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    Cyrillic lettering?

    Quote Originally Posted by Teggy View Post
    I have a 1943 izhevsk 91/30 with the serial number "3C1217"
    Quote Originally Posted by mrtank View Post
    I have never run across a 3C
    The C in a cyrillic markings would be an S in romanized lettering. So what looks like 3C1217 may be a mark that is listed elsewhere as 3S1217, since I imagine not many of us have a cyrillic keyboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick View Post
    The C in a cyrillic markings would be an S in romanized lettering. So what looks like 3C1217 may be a mark that is listed elsewhere as 3S1217, since I imagine not many of us have a cyrillic keyboard.
    I use this for my Cyrillic needs.
    I have never run across a single rifle with a number as part of the prefix, not on a ex-sniper or standard 91/30.
    That is why I asked for a picture of the barrel shank, I it may be a partial stamp.

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    also what's the infinity symbol above the soviet crest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teggy View Post
    also what's the infinity symbol above the soviet crest?
    I have seen the lazy 8 on other rifles before, it is one of the marks that we don't know why they put it on the rifles. Very may be a mark put there during refurbishment.
    That is deftly a nice crisp strike, interesting prefix. I personally wouldn't recommend spending the money on a WW2 scope for a standard 91/30. The Ukrainian reproduction PU scopes are quit nice, they function the same as the WW2 PU scopes and aren't as expensive. You can find them on Ebay. Other wise for a 1943 Izhevesk as far as I have seen the proper scope would be a Progress or a 1943 manufacture NKV Yoshkar-Ola.
    Accumounts also sells a modern reproduction PU scope on ebay, it is also cheaper than a WW2 scope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teggy View Post
    I recently stumbled on this: Original World War II PU Rifle Sniper Scopes. any know the correct manufacturer or particular serial numbers a izhevsk PU sniper would have?

    OMG! Looking at those prices, I now realize I got a "free" 1943 M91/30 sniper with my scope and mounting.

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    I would bet it is a mark that was used during a refurbishment. http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...912#post739912 another example of a lazy 8 on a Mosin, this time a Tula m44 on hex receiver.

    One of the Ukrainian make PU replica scopes http://www.ebay.com/itm/RUSSIAN-MOSI...item231e4baf87 And another one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/SOVIET-RUSSI...item4166e86915

    Polishing the receiver to me wouldn't be worth while. It would be a lot of work for not much in return. Could instead work on the trigger, and the bolt

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    Numbering clarified

    Guys, just look slowly at the 1943 (the mark is actually 1943 with a cyrillic "G" tagged on)
    Look at the 3.
    Now look at the supposed 3C1217
    Note how the "3" is strongly curved.
    It is NOT a 3, but a cyrillic "Z" (as in "zoo")

    SO the romanized version would actually be ZS1217

    Which makes it a plausible number.

    QED (I think)


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