1903A3 Jungle Carbine

[usabaker]

I was wandering around the Internet looking for an SKS to buy and ran across this odd listing 1903A3 Jungle Carbine, you just gotta ask yourself why sometimes.

https://usarmamentcorp.com/03a3-jungle-carbine/

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[pickax]

Junk, but maybe a few uninformed buyers out there.

[labrat1469]

It would be interesting to shoot. I have a M38 Turkish carbine, M38 Mosin, and M44 Mosin and they kick like a mule. That would probably require a chiropractor after the first shot or man up and shoot it again to put your shoulder back in place. If I had the money I'd get one. It would look good next to the 1903 Mark 1 and the 1903A3.

30-06 out of that short barrel... Where is my limb saver and padded shooting jacket...

[Daan Kemp]

Interesting the on-going myth about recoil and carbines.

[m1903rifle]

Interesting the on-going myth about recoil and carbines.

Ain't no myth. Have you shot a "Jungle" carbine?

[GeeRam]

Ain't no myth. Have you shot a "Jungle" carbine?

If you mean a Lee Enfield No.5, then they really are not a viscous to shoot as the myth claims. I used to own a Norwegian capture K98k (K98kF1) that the Noggies converted to 30-06 in the early 50's to make use of the 30-06 ammo being handed out to NATO armies, and that thing was way more vicious on my shoulder than shooting my .303 Lee Enfield No.5 is.
No wonder the Norwegian's left their G.33/40 Carbine's that they gave to their Police in their original 7.92x57 calibre and didn't convert them to 30-06...!!!

[firstflabn]

Interesting the on-going myth about recoil and carbines.

So, you're saying physics only works if you believe in it?

[El Woodman]

Looks like someone, lacking in knowledge, mated a blast deflector off a Lee-Enfield Rifle No.V Mk.1 with a chopped M1903A3. The aforementioned British "Jungle Carbine" is actually a short barreled rifle, which saw use mostly with British Commandos in Norway...."Jungle"? Yeah, right. A shame to do that to an M1903A3...Probably an aftermarket blast deflector. Seen them for sale on line. Recoil? I'm not chopping a .30-06 to see what that feels like, but my No. V Mk1 came stock in 1944 with a 3/4 inch vulcanized rubber recoil pad....Because you NEEDED it! But this Frankenrifle was assembled by some individual trying to pretend that it's something it isn't....Some peoples' kids....

[303 Gunner]

"Jungle"? Yeah, right.

Although "Jungle Carbine" was colloquial and not official terminology, the term was used during the development of the No. 5 as it was intended for use in the jungles of the Far East, where the No. 4 was deemed too long and ungainly. The rifle was also heavily used in the Malayan Emergency, so I don't know that I'd dismiss the term quite so eagerly...

[GeeRam]

Although "Jungle Carbine" was colloquial and not official terminology, the term was used during the development of the No. 5 as it was intended for use in the jungles of the Far East, where the No. 4 was deemed too long and ungainly.

Not really, intended use was Airborne, Mountain and Amphibious troop use, as well as mobile troop use in much the same way as the M1 Carbine was issued out, and the G.33/40 was issued in the Wehrmacht. The No.4 didn't appear in the Far East until the last year of the war, and well after the No.5 went into production, as all No.4's were issued to the European campaign as priority, as there was sufficient supply of No.3 rifles in Far East and Middle East and Med theatre's up until the war in Europe was drawing to a close and supplies could be sent to the Far East for the build up to the invasion of Japan.
The term Jungle Carbine was very definately a post war term applied to the rifle, and never originated in the UK. My father carried a No.5 for his 12 month operational tour in Palestine in 1946-47 (as did two uncles that served in Palestine in 46-47) and up until my father left the Army in 1948, he had never heard anyone in the Army refer to the No.5 as a 'Jungle Carbine'.