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    Entrenching tool shaft marking?

    I picked up this entrenching tool shaft to display with No4 Pig Sticker bayonets. It appears to be Britishicon made and of WW2 vintage but it has a "C.F." marking on the metal sleeve. Would I be correct to assume that this marking stands for Canadian Forces or does it stand for something else, please? I can't see a Canadian acceptance marking on it, although I don't wish to strip the paint off to look properly. It recently came from a surplus dealer and so if it was used by Canadaicon there is no telling exactly when.

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    Is that a 'Arrow' pointing toward the last 4 ?

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    Yes, I think so but no sign of a "C" around it.

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    Now I've been out in the sun.... but with this lap top on it's side, I believe I see a C under that paint. C would be laying on it's left side, So for my example I'll use a U instead of the C.

    4-4-<- U

    The C (U example) being tilted
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    Canadianicon Forces
    That was what we called ourselves after Unification in about '68/'70. This wouldn't apply here. We didn't mark things with that, just Canadian Arsenals and "C broad arrow"
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    Found one that may be similar, But says it's Britishicon.
    WB 44 <-

    Very in depth site here:
    08 helve carrier - Other Equipment - Great War Forum
    Entrenching Tool Helve - Other Equipment - Great War Forum

    Are CF and WB makers markings?
    I now very little about out of the US markings.

    Interesting though, I did try

    Cheers
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    I think that the "W.B." is the maker and the "C.F." stands for some something else other than the maker.

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    CF... Civil Forsvaret (Civil Defense) of Denmarkicon.
    Known to 'Recycle' gear from many countries, including Germanicon, after the occupation.


    Read description:
    Post WWII British Military Entrenching Tool / Shovel / Pick Helve Handle | eBay

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    Thanks for finding that painter. I did google "C.F." and I managed to find a list of "possibles" but none that really seemed likely; clearly it didn't stand for "charge full".

    These extra bits of information really adds interest to militaria items.

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    I found their use of different countries helmets. The Dutch used a red stamp (ink) with the royal crown over the CF.... Civilforsvaret

    Helmet example:

    Need help! What is this helmet?












    This was bought by Denmarkicon for CF use.
    The brass receiver housing from a Lanchester Mk.I. The ∋∈ marking indicates the gun was released for export


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    ---------- Post added at 04:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:59 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Flying10uk View Post
    the "C.F." stands for some something else other than the maker.
    You were correct !

    P777

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