selling some enfields, but need a price estimate & info on a launcher

[Marines55]

OK guys, I'm parting with some of my enfields and figured i don't need 4 grenade throwing rifles. but before i do so , i want to price them to be fair for both buyer and seller. i would appreciate some price help on them. all are matching numbers, excellent bores, and in very good to excellent condition.

1. Enfield grenade rifle (wire wrapped) with the harder to find spigot type launcher that hooks into the front sight guard wells, and a really hard to find launcher that is a spigot type that hooks on to the bayonet lug and is then tightened with a disc on the bottom side of the launcher. some one told me it was for the enigma grenade or something like that.

2. BSA .22lr rifle with Cooey rear sight in mint condition with matching numbers
3. Long Branch #4 .22lr conversion with transit case.

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[mr.e moose]

My, you might have a interesting bunch of rifles, but some pictures would help.

[Peter Laidler]

But remember this before you sell......... Once they're gone, they're gone followed shortly by the cash you got for them. And when you want to replace them, they'll cost t
wice what you got! And while you've got them, they ain't eatin' nothing neither

[Marines55]

OK, here are some pics of the enfield with launchers

[Peter Laidler]

This is no reflection on Marines but looking hard at the spigot launcher in Marines photos 1 to 4, makes me think that it could NEVER work - , well not twice! Because while there is a gap between the barrel and the launcher, however small, gas WILL escape and while there is a weak point tranversly across the rotating 'catch', that point* WILL act as a fulcrum point and the launcher WILL bend downwards at that point caused by the explosive power of the gas escaping.

As an example of the power generated by a ballastite cartridge, the act of firing an Energa grenade from an L1A1 rifle off the ground will destroy a plastic butt. Do the same without blanking off the gas plug and see what happens!!!!!!! More to it than that of course.........

Rare beast and we certainly never had one at work - nor have I seen one! PPP as we would say........ That's it........ pi55 poor practice!

*weakness aided and abetted by the small transverse small dia. cross pin used to retain the rotating catch thing..... see it?

[Marines55]

i actually found out what this is late last night. it is indeed an enfield energy grenade launcher. Apparently this was made in Belgium for the Energy grenade and is a very early design. there are two small slots at the muzzle end which allow a plastic firing grid to be inserted for aiming. mine obviously has no grid, but now that i know what it is...can anyone help with a value?

[Frederick303]

The two grenade launchers look like the type being sold by Springfield sporters a decade ago. Back then I think they were asking around 125 for the spigot launcher types, at least the one shown in the last picture. Based on the prices going up in the last decade, double that might be a good asking price, though for that kind of money (better part of a rifle) you will have to find a collector who really wants one.

Actually looking at the grenade launchers shown on SARCO's sit, it seems like much past 45 bucks is a hard sell for the No 4 launchers. The No 1 MKIII cup ones sell for between 80 to 100 right now. But then again the Indian No 1 MKIII Spigot launchers are quite rare. So 175 to 250 is not out of the question, if you can find the collector that is looking for one of these launchers.

price of the rifle...check gunbroker. I think they are going for around 275~325 with no launcher, depending on how clean they are. The one you have looks to be around a 295 dollar gun, if the bore is excellent, which most are.

The No2 MK IV with a cooey sight, between 500 and 650 depending on the markings and condition. If Canadian marked and real nice higher price, if a dirty rifle with no Canadian markings the lower price.

If the No4 .22 conversion is marked as a No 7 and is not a parts gun (lots of them) then it is likely a 1000 plus dollar gun. I seem to recall the last on that I saw at the forks of the Delaware show in Allentown PA was around 1150, though it did not sell at that price (vendor is a chap who is know for pricing high). If it is a no 4 that someone fit the .22 cal parts to then it might be on the order of 650 to 700, as they are still very uncommon.


Above are what I see as gun show prices to a collector wanting the item, not a collector looking for a deal. deals would be something less than the above prices

In general on items that are rare but well know (such as the Canadian No 7) you will get you best price on gunbroker. Not sure if that would be so on the grenade launchers, Indian Enfield collecting is a niche market.

[mmppres]

I sold a isapor wire wrapped last weekend with no launcher for 300.00

[Marines55]

thanks all. I'm going to price the wire wrapped enfield with both mk 3 launchers at $600.

i have never seen one of the first pictured launchers sell, and apparently quite a few enfield experts don't even have an example of them in their collections, so i think I'm on par with selling prices....or so i hope.

[Frederick303]

That seems to be a fair price with both launchers.