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Its all about shot placement...
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Hunting bears with a .30 Carbine is delightfully insane.
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In the early 90's I worked with Jean Luc, a Frenchman who served in the FFL. One day he had a heated argument with a Vietnamese customer. I went home as they were bickering, but when I came into work the next day, Jean Luc had a vintage carbine leaned against his desk. Said he carried one the whole time he was in Algeria.
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Originally Posted by
Retirednsmilin308
One day he had a heated argument with a Vietnamese customer.
I wonder what the gist of that was/could have been? Considering the Vietnamese has tons of carbines too and must have used them as long as anyone else...
Originally Posted by
Retirednsmilin308
a Frenchman who served in the FFL. Said he carried one the whole time he was in Algeria.
Would that have been an M1A1
? I think so...from what I can gather.
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Originally Posted by
Retirednsmilin308
In the early 90's I worked with Jean Luc, a Frenchman who served in the FFL. One day he had a heated argument with a Vietnamese customer. I went home as they were bickering, but when I came into work the next day, Jean Luc had a vintage carbine leaned against his desk. Said he carried one the whole time he was in Algeria.
I thought you were going to say he fought in "Indochina" 
“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same. 
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It was "Indochina" until 1954 when the French were defeated at Dien Ben Phu... and that was the beginning of our foolishness there - all those years ago. Anyone that ever under- estimated the Vietnamese as an opponent learned the hard way just how tenacious and ferocious they can be in a conflict situation. For hundreds of years as they were conquered over and over again - the "conquerors" soon regretted ever tangling with them.... It's no accident that all their cultural heroes were warriors going back hundreds of years...
Viet Bac - north Vietnam, Viet Nam - south country... I actually had some schooling in the history and culture of that part of the world before I was sent there in 1971,,, My dad did two tours there...
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Originally Posted by
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It was "Indochina" until 1954 when the
French were defeated at Dien Ben Phu... and that was the beginning of our foolishness there - all those years ago. Anyone that ever under- estimated the Vietnamese as an opponent learned the hard way just how tenacious and ferocious they can be in a conflict situation. For hundreds of years as they were conquered over and over again - the "conquerors" soon regretted ever tangling with them.... It's no accident that all their cultural heroes were warriors going back hundreds of years...
Viet Bac - north Vietnam, Viet Nam - south country... I actually had some schooling in the history and culture of that part of the world before I was sent there in 1971,,, My dad did two tours there...
IIRC they were effectively and traditionally two states until the French forced them into one. The South in fact had a legitimate claim to self-determination, however as a society it was a moral failure and so couldn't resist a totalitarian aggressor. Hopefully the lesson isn't lost on the rest of us.
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“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.”
Edward Bernays, 1928
Much changes, much remains the same.
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And here we were talking about carbines...
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The little diminutive .30 cal carbine is a bear killer for sure. Many years ago I met with and talked to a former Airforce AP who had been stationed in Greenland. He said that the carbine is what they were issued and when something happened to a plane or chopper and it went down that they had to go out and rescue those on board. They were always in a race with Polar bears to get there first. Many a bear met its end due to the little carbines. But only if other lives or their own were endanger.
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Originally Posted by
Bruce McAskill
The little diminutive .30 cal carbine is a bear killer for sure.
Kind of surprising but then if that's what they had, I guess. I know they've been brought down with .22 rimfire but again, not my first choice. I guess they were using ball at the time too, just showing shot placement being everything...
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