Para,

don't forget the Ruger #1, and both the original and the new Winchester Hi-walls. What else? The gatling gun.

The green box 30-40 loads throw a 180 gr. round nose at 2400+ fps. I call that way better than the .30-30. I like Sierra 220 RN for elk in the woods. I switched to the Kragicon from my 8x57, primarily because I like the rifle better. Long as I'm hunting in timber I'll stick with the iron-sighted Krag, cause it is so much easier to lug over deadfalls and through heavy brush.

The biggest problem with the Krag is it's probably too much gun for deer. Maybe with 150 gr. bullets loaded for "conditions" it would be OK ... others may disagree.

jn